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330busdriver 01-06-2017 07:41 PM

FAA Captain Pt121 Requirements
 
I've been looking at the direct entry captain jobs at some of the regionals as a way of getting back to the US and then applying for one of the majors. The DEC application requirements all seem to state that you must meet the FAA requirements to "serve as captain in pt121 air carrier operations". One of these requirements is - At least 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations (as co-pilot in Part 121 operations).

My question is are only FAA pt121 hours valid towards this requirement or are airline hours acquired overseas accepted?

TIA

JamesNoBrakes 01-06-2017 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by 330busdriver (Post 2276168)
I've been looking at the direct entry captain jobs at some of the regionals as a way of getting back to the US and then applying for one of the majors. The DEC application requirements all seem to state that you must meet the FAA requirements to "serve as captain in pt121 air carrier operations". One of these requirements is - At least 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations (as co-pilot in Part 121 operations).

My question is are only FAA pt121 hours valid towards this requirement or are airline hours acquired overseas accepted?

TIA

Is there another kind of Part 121? If it's not in the reg, it won't count unfortunately.

CaptYoda 01-06-2017 10:10 PM

Unfortunately, international airline flying while considered as an equivalent to FAR 121 is not accepted. This goes for FAA and NTSB jobs as well. The flying has to be done under the FAR part required.

330busdriver 01-06-2017 10:33 PM

Many Thanks for clearing that up.

The confusion came over the definition of pt121 and what the FAA are looking for. To my limited knowledge pt121 refers to scheduled air transport ops. Having worked for airlines my entire career outside the US I wasn't sure if this considered for licensing/upgrades etc. I've never heard of a domestic requirement like this before in Europe or Asia before.

rickair7777 01-07-2017 06:30 AM

I don't know that the FAA specifically meant to exclude foreign 121 equivalent flying in this rule, but I understand that it might be difficult to clearly define allowable foreign equivalents.

Or maybe they actually wanted CA's to have 121 experience in the US, under our rules.

Twin Wasp 01-07-2017 08:20 AM

I'm guessing this is what they're referring to- 121.436

(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof.

When the FAA says "under this part" they mean operations conducted under 121 as the sentence comes out of part 121. If they wanted to say scheduled air carrier operations to cover foreign airlines they would have phrased it that way. Probably looking to make sure the Captain has a experience working under the FAA system. Things will come up in line ops they never covered in basic indoc.

JamesNoBrakes 01-07-2017 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by 330busdriver (Post 2276197)
To my limited knowledge pt121 refers to scheduled air transport ops.

It does not. 121 is a specific FAR part that has specific regulations. Scheduled air transport can be Part 135, Part 129, Part 125, and so on. Scheduled air transport is broader than 121. By adding "121", it's much more specific.

galaxy flyer 01-07-2017 11:36 AM

I don't think FAR 125 is commercial, it's for non-commercial operators if planes with more than 19 seats or 6,000 pounds payload capability.

GF

JamesNoBrakes 01-07-2017 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2276500)
I don't think FAR 125 is commercial, it's for non-commercial operators if planes with more than 19 seats or 6,000 pounds payload capability.

GF

Maybe not commercial, but large aircraft transporting people and they have schedules. Not holding out to the public. Oil companies have some 737s that are 125. I'm sure there are others.

galaxy flyer 01-07-2017 06:32 PM

Actually a Global with the high ZFW option is Part 125. No schedules, no schedule.

Here's the definition from 125 applicability paragraph.

this part prescribes rules governing the operations of U.S.-registered civil airplanes which have a seating configuration of 20 or more passengers or a maximum payload capacity of 6,000 pounds or more when common carriage is not involved.

GF


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