Age 65 effect on FDX-UPS upgrades
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Age 65 effect on FDX-UPS upgrades
to you fine noggins at FDX and UPS, how would the new Age 65 rule affect upgrades to the left seat? As in, slightly or significantly? Many thanks.
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Significantly.
Probably the best way to describe it is that you may have to work an extra 5 years to make the same amount of money. That means:
More time at regional airlines
More time spent on reserve
More time spent commuting
More time spent at crashpads
More time spent as FO
More time spent on smaller equipment making less money
More time having crappy schedules
But the ultimate impact is that there is a now a greater supply of pilots. Higher supply means less demand, means less pay, workrules, etc...
I can't believe all the time we spend here *****ing about things that hurt the industry like scope, pay, work rules, scabs, outsourcing, etc...
But we have not had an organized effort to fight a change to age 60.
The industry is going to h*ll. We have the power to stop that. Do what you can to make sure age 60 is never changed.
Probably the best way to describe it is that you may have to work an extra 5 years to make the same amount of money. That means:
More time at regional airlines
More time spent on reserve
More time spent commuting
More time spent at crashpads
More time spent as FO
More time spent on smaller equipment making less money
More time having crappy schedules
But the ultimate impact is that there is a now a greater supply of pilots. Higher supply means less demand, means less pay, workrules, etc...
I can't believe all the time we spend here *****ing about things that hurt the industry like scope, pay, work rules, scabs, outsourcing, etc...
But we have not had an organized effort to fight a change to age 60.
The industry is going to h*ll. We have the power to stop that. Do what you can to make sure age 60 is never changed.
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Additional thought, with all the mergers it might be tough to figure out what 25 years with one company is. Maybe the Feds can just put a 25 year time limit on an ATP. I got mine in 1999 so I'm good till I'm 78.
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Last edited by FDXLAG; 01-30-2007 at 11:37 AM.
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Significantly.
Probably the best way to describe it is that you may have to work an extra 5 years to make the same amount of money. That means:
More time at regional airlines
More time spent on reserve
More time spent commuting
More time spent at crashpads
More time spent as FO
More time spent on smaller equipment making less money
More time having crappy schedules
But the ultimate impact is that there is a now a greater supply of pilots. Higher supply means less demand, means less pay, workrules, etc...
I can't believe all the time we spend here *****ing about things that hurt the industry like scope, pay, work rules, scabs, outsourcing, etc...
But we have not had an organized effort to fight a change to age 60.
The industry is going to h*ll. We have the power to stop that. Do what you can to make sure age 60 is never changed.
Probably the best way to describe it is that you may have to work an extra 5 years to make the same amount of money. That means:
More time at regional airlines
More time spent on reserve
More time spent commuting
More time spent at crashpads
More time spent as FO
More time spent on smaller equipment making less money
More time having crappy schedules
But the ultimate impact is that there is a now a greater supply of pilots. Higher supply means less demand, means less pay, workrules, etc...
I can't believe all the time we spend here *****ing about things that hurt the industry like scope, pay, work rules, scabs, outsourcing, etc...
But we have not had an organized effort to fight a change to age 60.
The industry is going to h*ll. We have the power to stop that. Do what you can to make sure age 60 is never changed.
AMEN!! Now I have to wait 5 more years probably to uprade, get a better sched. etc. Oh but that's OK because now I GET to work 5 more years of night cargo flying. Just what I want to do when I am 60-65. Maybe if I am lucky, I can get displaced by some retred coming off the panel. Oh what fun this is going to be. And for all UPSers out there, with the 72 going away, and the age limit raised, get ready for some fun in the next few years.
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