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CTRCommander 05-30-2017 06:53 AM

ATI Negotiations
 
Looks like we are heading for mediation. Lowest paid on the ramp and still can't squeeze a dollar out of ATSG.

Funny how they can pay the guy the on the spot next to me an extra 100K but keep me at sub commuter pay!

One union One Ramp and up there @$$ is starting to appeal to A LOT of us.

CTRCommander 05-30-2017 06:55 AM

No idea how the UPS prefix go there, cant remove it

baldwin 05-30-2017 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by CTRCommander (Post 2371435)
Looks like we are heading for mediation. Lowest paid on the ramp and still can't squeeze a dollar out of ATSG.

Funny how they can pay the guy the on the spot next to me an extra 100K but keep me at sub commuter pay!

One union One Ramp and up there @$$ is starting to appeal to A LOT of us.

how long would it take decertify ALPA and vote in 1224 if the pilot group wanted to go that route?

papacharlie 05-30-2017 09:09 AM

Well the single certificate would have been the best for both ABX and ATI.....

CTRCommander 05-30-2017 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by baldwin (Post 2371491)
how long would it take decertify ALPA and vote in 1224 if the pilot group wanted to go that route?

It totally depends on how miserable this process gets.

For the first time in ATI history there are enough people on the list that are young enough to say " F it" and stick it where the sun don't shine because other jobs are out there.

Like someone said before, those management jobs are scarce pilot jobs are not. It would give me a total woody to see most of management hit the job boards and pay to relocate. Lord knows they've done it to us MANY times.

If our two pilot groups would work together we could strengthen are position a hundred fold. B707 guy however made an excellent statement addressing how he had been burned on the last time two airlines had forced sex.

Kougarok 05-30-2017 01:43 PM

If we were in the same Union single carrier would be a moot point. Starting passing out cards and asking for a vote. 1224 can't poach but the ATI pilots can help themselves.

FlyAstarJets 05-30-2017 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by CTRCommander (Post 2371436)
No idea how the UPS prefix go there, cant remove it

Must've been a clipboard artifact left over from that
UPS app you were filling out!!!:rolleyes:

CTRCommander 05-30-2017 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 2371667)
Must've been a clipboard artifact left over from that
UPS app you were filling out!!!:rolleyes:

lmao, yeah

I actually like anchorage..! Plus I could hang out with MoFo


Out of all honesty though, I really get tired of upper management. We do our job as best we can and make it happen. Im not kicking ABX, their contract is better and they have fought for it. However, I don't see how they can sit across the table from our guys with a strait face and not give us what we're asking for. Overall we wouldn't quite be up with ABX on the take home pay but we'd be a lot better.

woog315 05-30-2017 06:30 PM

Operating a second whipsaw carrier stops making sense if the second carrier is being paid the same as the 'big' airline. The company has no reason to give you a good contract- they'd rather just merge you or make you go away if they actually have to take care of you. Think of all the absurd inefficiencies that come from running two airlines to do one job. You guys have got a long fight ahead of you, I wish you the best and definitely hope you start exploring 1224.

l8fr82hub 05-30-2017 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 2371498)
Well the single certificate would have been the best for both ABX and ATI.....

No, would've been only good for ABX- most of the ATI folks would've been on the street.


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