K4 Pilots Declaration Of Independance !
01-19-2018, 08:17 AM
#521
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Yeah we've got guys making $400K too... Atlas has FOs cracking $200K as well. Personally I'd rather not work that much. I value my life and there's more to it than flying that much. Whatever makes those guys happy though...
Pfft...I know who*es and drug dealers that make a LOT more than that.
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01-19-2018, 10:36 AM
#523
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Originally Posted by The Baron
Globemaster2827
When you said "look at what the Spirit pilots just got for retirement" it's funny how you forgot to mention this what ALPA JUST GOT FOR THE SPIRIT PILOTS! I am sure this was just a small oversight by you. Also it is exactly why K4 pilots will soon be moving to ALPA from 1224, as the Spirit pilots had ZERO influence from other ALPA airlines and negotiated for exactly what was important for THEM!
When you said "look at what the Spirit pilots just got for retirement" it's funny how you forgot to mention this what ALPA JUST GOT FOR THE SPIRIT PILOTS! I am sure this was just a small oversight by you. Also it is exactly why K4 pilots will soon be moving to ALPA from 1224, as the Spirit pilots had ZERO influence from other ALPA airlines and negotiated for exactly what was important for THEM!
01-19-2018, 10:42 AM
#524
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Lol.... So it wasn't at all on you for getting that retirement? You get what you earn. Do you really think Connie was gonna "Give" you 3 times the retirement simply because your lanyard says "Alpa" on it? Don't be shocked when you discover that your Union consists of your pilots. Spirit worked pretty hard to get that.
we are kind of beating a dead horse here
what baron was referencing was the statements by many Atlas guys on this thread who said that 1224 and the teamsters got us our contract
which as you note with Spirit is BS - the KA negotiating committee our Exco Chair and the stiff backbone of our group got us what we have
and BTW is much as you deride our retirement section it is exactly 2x better then the previous contract
01-19-2018, 03:28 PM
#525
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Originally Posted by maxjet
We will be so happy for you when you settle for nothing but the best contract in the Airline industry. I hear minimum UPS + 15%? Good luck up there in your perfect little world. I hear it is such a joy working over at Atlas. Lots of adventure. Landing at the wrong airport, missing an Asian mountain top by 100 feet, gosh, it must be so exciting to work over there with such professional and intelligent pilots. Your posts represent the level of intelligence and professionalism that I hear about in your pilot group. I am in awe. Please consider me and let me join you as a student. My life would be so fulfilling and all of my worldly questions would be answered. I can think of nothing better than to be allowed to sit at the feet of someone as god like as you
What were the official causes of those Kalitta crashes ?
Please educate all of us Atlas pilots because we must be inferior pilots.
01-19-2018, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Screwed
Since you are bringing up incidents....I have a couple questions.
What were the official causes of those Kalitta crashes ?
Please educate all of us Atlas pilots because we must be inferior pilots.
What were the official causes of those Kalitta crashes ?
Please educate all of us Atlas pilots because we must be inferior pilots.
01-19-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
I hear it is such a joy working over at Atlas. Lots of adventure. Landing at the wrong airport, missing an Asian mountain top by 100 feet, gosh, it must be so exciting to work over there with such professional and intelligent pilots. Your posts represent the level of intelligence and professionalism that I hear about in your pilot group. I am in awe. Please consider me and let me join you as a student. My life would be so fulfilling and all of my worldly questions would be answered. I can think of nothing better than to be allowed to sit at the feet of someone as god like as you
You going to show your true colors if Atlas ever has a fatality and try to slam us for that, too??
And thank goodness that Kalitta has NEVER had an accident or incident. And "if" K4 did ever have something bad happen, no decent pilot would ever use that as a slam against you.
There are incidents throughout the airline industry. I'm not going to waste time illuminating the stats, but whatever they are, we should all learn from them to be safer and not slander each other.
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01-21-2018, 09:59 AM
#528
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
ClLASS ACT , maxjet !!! Bringing up incidents that could have killed fellow pilots.
You going to show your true colors if Atlas ever has a fatality and try to slam us for that, too??
And thank goodness that Kalitta has NEVER had an accident or incident. And "if" K4 did ever have something bad happen, no decent pilot would ever use that as a slam against you.
There are incidents throughout the airline industry. I'm not going to waste time illuminating the stats, but whatever they are, we should all learn from them to be safer and not slander each other.
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You going to show your true colors if Atlas ever has a fatality and try to slam us for that, too??
And thank goodness that Kalitta has NEVER had an accident or incident. And "if" K4 did ever have something bad happen, no decent pilot would ever use that as a slam against you.
There are incidents throughout the airline industry. I'm not going to waste time illuminating the stats, but whatever they are, we should all learn from them to be safer and not slander each other.
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01-21-2018, 03:53 PM
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I find bringing up aircraft accidents reprehensible!! The world evolves, and everything changes. I have had the pleasure of working for both organizations and there are alot of people at Atlas that are former AIA (Kalitta pre-2000) and I know they would never stoop to that level. I remember back in the olden days at Kalitta flying for Emery and we used to get the stink eye from the EWW pilots flying in their hub. Now Emery is in the history books and Emery pilots are now in management positions at K4. Jumpseating on ATA and entertaining the crews with CK stories, now ATA pilots working in all facets at K4. The archives of aviation history are littered with would be kings that thought they would never die. Things constantly change and evolve and the underdog could one day be the king, so be careful whom you disrespect and throw mud at, you could find yourself addressing a resume to them in your future. Repect the industry and each other.
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