Code Red

Go read the charter section. 1224 won’t even allow the pilots to see the TA.

Jason605

I don't believe an actual TA between the company and the pilot group has been reached.

Code Red

No ****. Becusse the negotiating committee isent allowed to talk. Per 1224.

Jason605

Okay... If your all "No S..t", then why lie about them not being allowed to see a TA, that now you admit doesn't exist?

Maybe just stick to factual information and less emotion.

Code Red

Why don’t you go over to the charter section and READ.

Jason605

No need to. Think it's already been established that you "misspoke" (lied) above.

plift

From what I can tell all Omni has is a company offer that the company has cherry picked a few details from and released that to the pilot group. There is no TA to release and if the offer was that great the company would release it in its entirety on thier own. All the public squabbling over company offers like this does nothing but reduce their negotiating teams leverage.

I don't get the blame going to 1224 either. Correct me if I'm wrong but they can't stop a TA from going to a vote right? They could potentially not sign off on the contract when it gets to their level or at least threaten to as has supposedly happened at Kalitta and now Omni. As far as wether to release an offer or TA to the pilot group or not for a vote is all on that pilot groups negotiating team and Exco right? Seems like any anger should be focused on your negotiating team for not releasing a TA/offer. If 1224 says they'll block it at least press the issue by sending them a voted on contract to block. Nobody has gotten that far, just resorted to *****ing about it on a public web board while their negotiating team is in the middle of negotiations and now pushing for decert after the fact.

Lockheed

A lot of what you wrote is indeed wrong
1224 can prevent a TA from being voted on by a pilot group
The Omni exco or negotiating team can't release squat with out DW's approval
All communications in fact come from 1224...not directly from the officers of a respective pilot group

I could go on

Code Red

The negotiating team is gagged by the union from saying anything.

jhugz

Same at K4...but people eat this management 101 technique up...hence the decert vote...