"Take it or leave it" Really?
08-06-2017, 07:40 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by sandstorm
Don't worry. We Atlas guys going through CVG won't have a problem setting the parking break again.
08-07-2017, 07:22 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by woog315
Yeah we appreciate the sentiment and support (genuinely, as a newer guy it was truly inspiring to witness), but maybe you guys can jump on the grenade next instead of watching us do it again
08-07-2017, 07:36 AM
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[QUOTE=Jason605;2404928]Exactly that. "Take it or Leave it" while discussing a section of the contract during negotiations. QUOTE]
Not quite right. The company responding that way to our negotiating team asking to amend the order of items discussed by covering Scope and Parent letter first to see if they were serious in conducting expedited negotiations. Shows you that they aren't serious.
Not quite right. The company responding that way to our negotiating team asking to amend the order of items discussed by covering Scope and Parent letter first to see if they were serious in conducting expedited negotiations. Shows you that they aren't serious.
08-07-2017, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by woog315
Yeah we appreciate the sentiment and support (genuinely, as a newer guy it was truly inspiring to witness), but maybe you guys can jump on the grenade next instead of watching us do it again
Your company violated status quo- hence the strike.
When and if ours does- we shall "jump on the grenade"
09-06-2017, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sherpster
April: 265 pilots
Sept: 252
The incredible shrinking airline!
That 252 doesnt take into account the 3 retirements I know of (names still on bid sheet) and 5 FO's who are quitting in Sept THAT I KNOW OF (obviously more than that). If I was ABX management I would do 1 of 2 things: #1 have a come to Jesus moment and get the contract done ASAP (wont happen because Joe H. Wont let them) or #2 polish up the resume because you are going to be fired before Christmas.
I really dont see any other outcome. Been nice listening to your B.S.
Abx pilots: just sit tight, don't cave on anything.
Sept: 252
The incredible shrinking airline!
That 252 doesnt take into account the 3 retirements I know of (names still on bid sheet) and 5 FO's who are quitting in Sept THAT I KNOW OF (obviously more than that). If I was ABX management I would do 1 of 2 things: #1 have a come to Jesus moment and get the contract done ASAP (wont happen because Joe H. Wont let them) or #2 polish up the resume because you are going to be fired before Christmas.
I really dont see any other outcome. Been nice listening to your B.S.
Abx pilots: just sit tight, don't cave on anything.
09-06-2017, 01:08 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by sherpster
Down to 245 and the jr manning calls go out daily. Lost 7.5% of the seniority list in 6 months and the attrition is increasing.
10-06-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sherpster
Down to 245 and the jr manning calls go out daily. Lost 7.5% of the seniority list in 6 months and the attrition is increasing.
Someone is getting fired over this
Last edited by sherpster; 10-06-2017 at 10:54 AM. Reason: ds
10-06-2017, 12:41 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by sherpster
Down to 236 on the bid pack and some of those names aren't here anymore or are leaving this week. Lost almost 4% in 1 month. 11% since April.
Someone is getting fired over this
Someone is getting fired over this
10-06-2017, 03:36 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by wjcandee
Let's hope this isn't because they are "right-sizing" to fit the anticipated future needs of the airline. That they are making junior manning calls BEFORE Peak suggests that they are indeed finding themselves short of pilots (again), but I have had this in the back of my mind for a few months as they seem to be dragging their feet on responding to the attrition.
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