Atlas Air pool
09-14-2017, 11:00 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by mothergoose
I'm at a 135 ops. Per diem doesn't exist here and I'm unfamiliar it the concept. During training, how many hours does the $2.40/hr apply to in a day, i.e. 8, 12, 24 hours total? Plus the flat $1600.
The per diem may or not be taxed, but the training pay will be, so I see two options here:
Per diem taxed monthly training income: $2,496
Per diem NON-taxed monthly training income: $2,928
This assumes 25% of your paycheck goes to taxes.
09-14-2017, 02:20 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by GrabPopcorn
During training I think it's straightforward, you'd get $1,728 in per diem alone, plus the $1,600, which equals a total of $3,328 for one month. Now the real question is do they tax the per diem? Per diem isn't taxed if you're on a trip that overnights outside of base. Miami is listed as a 'base' but that seems unrelated to new hire training in my opinion.
The per diem may or not be taxed, but the training pay will be, so I see two options here:
Per diem taxed monthly training income: $2,496
Per diem NON-taxed monthly training income: $2,928
This assumes 25% of your paycheck goes to taxes.
The per diem may or not be taxed, but the training pay will be, so I see two options here:
Per diem taxed monthly training income: $2,496
Per diem NON-taxed monthly training income: $2,928
This assumes 25% of your paycheck goes to taxes.
09-14-2017, 04:25 PM
#64
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Originally Posted by thesandbox
Per Diem IS taxed in base...if not you might have some explaining to do to the IRS if you get audited.
09-14-2017, 05:30 PM
#66
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Per Diem is absolutely taxed if the Atlas contractual daily rate exceeds the government rate.
Atlas' rate is never above government rates except in maybe, Iowa, and I have never been taxed on per diem, even in base....nor should I...
09-14-2017, 09:44 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
Atlas' rate is never above government rates except in maybe, Iowa, and I have never been taxed on per diem, even in base....nor should I...
09-15-2017, 05:06 AM
#69
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
It's above it in HSV and I pay taxes on the difference... It's a negligible amount even when I sit R2.
Do you also live in HSV? I don't live in base, yet still don't get taxed on per diem. I guess that it is just dumb luck.
09-19-2017, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A
You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
What are you talking about???
The company owns you for 17 days. They can operate you, deadhead you, place you on reserve...whatever!! Again they own you for 17 days. You knew this when you got hired here.
When you "deadhead all over the planet" it is in Business Class or better not stuck in a middle seat in coach.
When the crew meets for the first time, the Captain usually asks EVERYONE on the crew if they need a landing. It is NOT for "senior crew" only. I don't know where you get that information!
If you do not like it at Atlas then leave! No one is making you stay!
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