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09-10-2017, 04:53 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by captainv
I'm not going to go through the whole thing, but the last bid package shows a lot of flying lines with block times in the low 40s down to the 20s. Mid 30s for an average? On the cargo side, the routes don't change, but sometimes they mix AMZ/DHL in a single month sometimes they're separate.
Oh, and I flew 100 hours in the last 12 months.
Oh, and I flew 100 hours in the last 12 months.
09-10-2017, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've had my heart set on flying a 747 around the world since I was a kid and Atlas seems like the easiest way for me to live out my dreams.
I'd hate to burn the Atlas bridge by getting hired there and telling them that I really want to fly the 747 and would be willing to wait for a 747 class instead of going into the 767.
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09-10-2017, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KnotSee
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've had my heart set on flying a 747 around the world since I was a kid and Atlas seems like the easiest way for me to live out my dreams.
I'd hate to burn the Atlas bridge by getting hired there and telling them that I really want to fly the 747 and would be willing to wait for a 747 class instead of going into the 767.
I'd hate to burn the Atlas bridge by getting hired there and telling them that I really want to fly the 747 and would be willing to wait for a 747 class instead of going into the 767.
Anyhow, there's no better way to ruin that dream than by flying the 747 at Atlas. You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
The 747 isn't that great. It handles like a blimp when you hand fly it. No one respects you because of the type of airplane, as long as it says Atlas or Polar on the side you're just acmi scum to everyone, and we have the reputation as a bunch of hacks from landing the LCF at the wrong airport and a string of other incidents. There is no glamour here.
09-10-2017, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A
UPS has 747's and is getting -8's too. I'd try them. The 747 at Atlas is probably going to start getting more senior now that the initial seat locks are ending on the 767. I have to imagine that if you turn down the 767 it's not going to end well, but I really don't know, maybe they're desperate enough now that they'd do what you want. I don't blame you for not wanting the 767 though, haha.
Anyhow, there's no better way to ruin that dream than by flying the 747 at Atlas. You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
The 747 isn't that great. It handles like a blimp when you hand fly it. No one respects you because of the type of airplane, as long as it says Atlas or Polar on the side you're just acmi scum to everyone, and we have the reputation as a bunch of hacks from landing the LCF at the wrong airport and a string of other incidents. There is no glamour here.
Anyhow, there's no better way to ruin that dream than by flying the 747 at Atlas. You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
The 747 isn't that great. It handles like a blimp when you hand fly it. No one respects you because of the type of airplane, as long as it says Atlas or Polar on the side you're just acmi scum to everyone, and we have the reputation as a bunch of hacks from landing the LCF at the wrong airport and a string of other incidents. There is no glamour here.
Believe me, I'd love to get on with UPS, but for now, it seems that Atlas, being desperate for pilots, has way lower hiring mins and standards than UPS does. Atlas hires regional F/Os. UPS typically doesn't.
Besides, with the number of Atlas pilots UPS is hiring, it's probably faster to get on with UPS by getting on with Atlas first and getting the 747 type and then going to UPS.
09-10-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A
UPS has 747's and is getting -8's too. I'd try them. The 747 at Atlas is probably going to start getting more senior now that the initial seat locks are ending on the 767. I have to imagine that if you turn down the 767 it's not going to end well, but I really don't know, maybe they're desperate enough now that they'd do what you want. I don't blame you for not wanting the 767 though, haha.
Anyhow, there's no better way to ruin that dream than by flying the 747 at Atlas. You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
The 747 isn't that great. It handles like a blimp when you hand fly it. No one respects you because of the type of airplane, as long as it says Atlas or Polar on the side you're just acmi scum to everyone, and we have the reputation as a bunch of hacks from landing the LCF at the wrong airport and a string of other incidents. There is no glamour here.
Anyhow, there's no better way to ruin that dream than by flying the 747 at Atlas. You'll probably be burned out and hating it after a year or three, exacerbated by the fact that the actual flying of the airplane is a small fraction of your time at work here, especially as a 747 F/O. Most of your time is commercializing/deadheading all over the planet, sitting around budget hotels, and then when you do get to "operate", you sit there in a jumpseat, fill out a logbook or do the nav log math test while the senior crew do the takeoff and landing (or you watch a check airman conduct OE because of the revolving door of pilots this place has become).
The 747 isn't that great. It handles like a blimp when you hand fly it. No one respects you because of the type of airplane, as long as it says Atlas or Polar on the side you're just acmi scum to everyone, and we have the reputation as a bunch of hacks from landing the LCF at the wrong airport and a string of other incidents. There is no glamour here.
I'd still take a job at Atlas flying the 747 no matter how bad the rest of the job may be. Things have to get better there, or I'd just leave and go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex with my 747 type and international experience.
09-10-2017, 10:53 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by KnotSee
I'm sorry to hear that. Us regional pilots still think flying the 747 and the 777 around the world as the epitome of being an airline pilot. It's what most of us dream of doing.
I'd still take a job at Atlas flying the 747 no matter how bad the rest of the job may be. Things have to get better there, or I'd just leave and go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex with my 747 type and international experience.
I'd still take a job at Atlas flying the 747 no matter how bad the rest of the job may be. Things have to get better there, or I'd just leave and go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex with my 747 type and international experience.
I bet you would cross a picket line too.
09-10-2017, 11:00 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by KnotSee
I'm sorry to hear that. Us regional pilots still think flying the 747 and the 777 around the world as the epitome of being an airline pilot. It's what most of us dream of doing.
I'd still take a job at Atlas flying the 747 no matter how bad the rest of the job may be. Things have to get better there, or I'd just leave and go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex with my 747 type and international experience.
I'd still take a job at Atlas flying the 747 no matter how bad the rest of the job may be. Things have to get better there, or I'd just leave and go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex with my 747 type and international experience.
BTW....it is not so easy to leave and just go to a legacy/UPS/Fedex. For every one that does go...3 or 4 don't get the job or never get the interview.
But instead of just leaving and going to a legacy/UPS/Fedex why not do yourself and us favor and just go there now. Oh that's right....it is not easy is it?
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