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f10a 03-17-2007 12:28 PM

Avg UPS monthly credit hours?
 
I saw a post the other day about the average UPS monthly credit hours for pay, as reported from the IPA. Can't seem to locate it now, but does anyone have that info?

Thanks!

8-capt 03-17-2007 12:41 PM

If you mean guarantee, It is 75 hrs.
I should add that we have 13 pay periods in a year, 975 hrs total. Should you try and compare pay scales this will give you more accurate results.
This web site has a list of most airlines pay scales on the home page. Great tool, Thanks APC.

Priority 3 03-17-2007 12:52 PM

It's 1,075 credit hours per year. Translates into 90 hours per month for the avg. UPSer.

8-capt 03-17-2007 01:23 PM

How did you figure that P3?

Priority 3 03-17-2007 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by 8-capt (Post 134849)
How did you figure that P3?

Union. It's how they came up with those "whatchullmake" slides.

8-capt 03-17-2007 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Priority 3 (Post 134854)
Union. It's how they came up with those "whatchullmake" slides.

Like sell your vacation back to the co. and don't ever call in sick. I get it now, and we will all make 300k a year!:mad:

Priority 3 03-17-2007 02:03 PM

Don't forget open time pickups, JA's, carry ins, training on days off, vacation on days off, and JA2. Plenty of ways to make a buck flying boxes at brown.

767pilot 03-17-2007 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Priority 3 (Post 134841)
It's 1,075 credit hours per year. Translates into 90 hours per month for the avg. UPSer.

90X12=1080
That really isn't a stretch for some of the fleets. It is nothing to have an 80+ hour line on the Z, and that is before open time, carry in, change of layover, or the rest of the items mentioned.

Busflyer 03-17-2007 07:05 PM

Guarantee
 
75 X 13 - 975.

That's all you can count on.

To compare apples to apples 975/12 - 81.25 if my math is correct.

Priority 3 03-17-2007 07:05 PM

And that 80 hours in SDFZ is on a 28 day pay period--not a calendar month. You guys are working!

767pilot 03-17-2007 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Busflyer (Post 134972)
75 X 13 - 975.

That's all you can count on.

To compare apples to apples 975/12 - 81.25 if my math is correct.

Actually, (975*13)/12=81.25

767pilot 03-17-2007 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Priority 3 (Post 134973)
And that 80 hours in SDFZ is on a 28 day pay period--not a calendar month. You guys are working!


true. I just looked at our highest time line.86:38 in 15 out of 28 days and 87:59 in 16 out of 28. Luckily that stuff goes senior <G>

Trash Hauler 1 03-17-2007 09:09 PM

Do the math again, John
 
Check your signs!

TH1



Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 135000)
Actually, (975*13)/12=81.25


L'il J.Seinfeld 03-17-2007 09:27 PM

To those who are really wondering about how much you can make at UPS, I'll offer my input.

There are some details I'll leave out, but basically the most credit hours per pay period you can get if you volunteer to work extra is 96. The minimum guarantee is 75 and we have 13 pay periods per year. Thus 75 X 13=975 per year minimum. If you are willing to do more than the minimum then it could be 96 X 13=1248. We also get premium payments for various things and are able to sell back sick time.

There are a lot of folks who are averaging 96 credit hours per pay period. 727 reserve line holders usualy only work 5 days out of their 15 days of being on reserve each month. On their days off they pick up open time. JAs don;t count towards the 96 hour cap, so a person can make even more if they time it right. Reserves on other fleets tend to get used a lot more and most do not feel like working on their days off. With the pending displacement bid, many 727 pilots will start working a lot harder and will be making a lot less since they probably will not want to accept JAs or pick up open time flying on days off.

Brown Cow 03-18-2007 11:09 AM

Slight correction Seinfeld. The max credit hours is 184 over the bid period. The new contract lowered it from 192 to 184.

767pilot 03-18-2007 11:18 AM

unless you drop trips for training or vacation, in which case it goes up by the amount of the trips dropped

HSLD 03-18-2007 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by 8-capt (Post 134837)
This web site has a list of most airlines pay scales on the home page. Great tool, Thanks APC.

Thanks for the feedback and for pointing out the 13 bid periods. I got SO many email messages when I published the calculator telling me I screwed up with the extra "month" :)

IPAMD11FO 03-18-2007 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 135175)
Thanks for the feedback and for pointing out the 13 bid periods. I got SO many email messages when I published the calculator telling me I screwed up with the extra "month" :)

Technically, we have 7 bid periods and 13 pay periods. Six of bid periods contain two pay periods and one bid period (usually Nov) is one pay period. Each pay period is 28 days.

f10a 03-18-2007 01:34 PM

I found the post I was referring to and it stated that the avg. annual pay is your pay rate x 1000 plus 15%.

Pilot7576 03-18-2007 02:24 PM

ups pay
 
f10a...

I think I posted that...that number was given to us as an average earnings calculator based on the entire pilot group. So, on average, that would work but your individual mileage may vary.

Pilot7576

schmitty340 03-18-2007 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Brown Cow (Post 135161)
Slight correction Seinfeld. The max credit hours is 184 over the bid period. The new contract lowered it from 192 to 184.


I just read in the new contract that the max was 104 credit hours per pay period and 208 per bid period.. were are you seeing 184?

fr8rcaptain 03-18-2007 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Brown Cow (Post 135161)
Slight correction Seinfeld. The max credit hours is 184 over the bid period. The new contract lowered it from 192 to 184.

I think this is for line construction only?:confused:

schmitty340 03-18-2007 05:57 PM

Thanks Fr8rcaptain

Schmitty


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