International Commuting at Atlas Air
11-03-2017, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pirates cove
Also note. The company said it is going to drop gateway travel. So any ride to work would be on your own dime!
Domestic and international.
Domestic and international.
A company that is having trouble recruiting has targeted the key thing that it offers that attracts applicants. Very odd, but it is what it is.
11-03-2017, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash
This needs to be emphasized. Anyone thinking of coming to Atlas, the company has stated that its goal is to kill the gateway travel program, and certainly no home basing.
A company that is having trouble recruiting has targeted the key thing that it offers that attracts applicants. Very odd, but it is what it is.
A company that is having trouble recruiting has targeted the key thing that it offers that attracts applicants. Very odd, but it is what it is.
But be aware if you come here you may be hit it the crossfire or held hostage. It's going to get far uglier in the coming months.
11-03-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gollum
If you are a US citizen living abroad you would still pay income tax on your income over $102,100 (based on the foreign earned income exclusion for 2017) which would also include any imputed income from company paid travel to/from your "gateway".
In this case, even if he/she were to move overseas the employer (Atlas) is a US company and the checks would be paid from the US. Thus there’s no exemption, he/she has to pay taxes on the entire income. People have tried to work around it.. very expensive if you get caught.
11-03-2017, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pirates cove
Also note. The company said it is going to drop gateway travel. So any ride to work would be on your own dime!
Domestic and international.
Domestic and international.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
11-04-2017, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
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Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
Incredibly foolish. And not a surprise. Job 1 is beat the union, running the airline appears to be down about # 37.
They are going to Republic this place. IMO.
11-04-2017, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
This exemption only applies to American citizens who live overseas and work overseas (doesn’t apply to fdx hkg based pilots as they use tax equalization instead).
In this case, even if he/she were to move overseas the employer (Atlas) is a US company and the checks would be paid from the US. Thus there’s no exemption, he/she has to pay taxes on the entire income. People have tried to work around it.. very expensive if you get caught.
In this case, even if he/she were to move overseas the employer (Atlas) is a US company and the checks would be paid from the US. Thus there’s no exemption, he/she has to pay taxes on the entire income. People have tried to work around it.. very expensive if you get caught.
https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about...-earned-income
There’s a process that requires either bonified residence abroad or a physical presence test requireint 330 days outside of the United States in the last 365.
People working overseas use this a lot. Well worth it when it’s legitimate, very much playing with fire if you’re trying to game the system.
11-04-2017, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Whether or not it’s a US company doesn’t matter.
https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about...-earned-income
There’s a process that requires either bonified residence abroad or a physical presence test requireint 330 days outside of the United States in the last 365.
People working overseas use this a lot. Well worth it when it’s legitimate, very much playing with fire if you’re trying to game the system.
https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about...-earned-income
There’s a process that requires either bonified residence abroad or a physical presence test requireint 330 days outside of the United States in the last 365.
People working overseas use this a lot. Well worth it when it’s legitimate, very much playing with fire if you’re trying to game the system.
11-04-2017, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
Fact; Your wording may confuse the uninitiated. Gateway travel is in the current CBA and cannot just be dropped.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
It is ironic. That the company has done more to unify the pilot group then any union could. (Be it threatening letters sent in padded envelopes to your wife and kids, or random catering changes, etc.)
Last edited by Pirates cove; 11-04-2017 at 09:07 AM.
11-04-2017, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
Fact; Your wording may confuse the uninitiated. Gateway travel is in the current CBA and cannot just be dropped.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
Opinion; This is just what they presented at the last negotiations session. It is just a negotiation tactic. The next CBA will at least have gateway travel, if not, home-basing.
Opinion: The next CBA may (or may not) have gateway travel.
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