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Old 10-22-2017, 08:19 PM
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I asked the question while at Boeing recently if there were plans for a 787 or 777X freighter. The reply was it is always being evaluated, and anything can be done. However it will be expensive and the freighter market is much smaller than the passenger market. The cost to develop may not make sense due to limited sales.
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Originally Posted by cougar View Post
I asked the question while at Boeing recently if there were plans for a 787 or 777X freighter. The reply was it is always being evaluated, and anything can be done. However it will be expensive and the freighter market is much smaller than the passenger market. The cost to develop may not make sense due to limited sales.
Makes sense...
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Someone correct me if Im wrong but Im told you cant cut a door into a composite fuselage. (787)




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Think of the composite as bluejeans material (denim) with superglue. If you cut it the cut end will fray and lead to cracks etc. Any opening in a composite structure must be made and with material wrapping the boundaries of the area prior to the curing process. Also you can't go cut in and try to re wrap the area like you would an old fiberglass boat. The entire process must be done right the first time prior to initial cure/bake.
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Think of the composite as bluejeans material (denim) with superglue. If you cut it the cut end will fray and lead to cracks etc. Any opening in a composite structure must be made and with material wrapping the boundaries of the area prior to the curing process. Also you can't go cut in and try to re wrap the area like you would an old fiberglass boat. The entire process must be done right the first time prior to initial cure/bake.
On the other hand Boeing was able to repair the fire damaged Air India 787 in Heathrow, and that involved a large plug in the fuselage.
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On the other hand Boeing was able to repair the fire damaged Air India 787 in Heathrow, and that involved a large plug in the fuselage.
Big difference between a plug and a big hole you’re going to open 3-4 times a day.
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CTRCommander View Post
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I read somewhere that all 787’s can already accommodate a cargo door and are setup for easy conversion.

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I read somewhere that all 787’s can already accommodate a cargo door and are setup for easy conversion.

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What current freighter would you hope to replace with a new design 787F? It would carry less then a 777F on a similar length route. It would probably carry about the same amount as a cheaper, current production B767-300F although on a longer stage length. I don’t see where a 787F would fit into today’s cargo routes.
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Originally Posted by Radials Rule View Post
I read somewhere that all 787’s can already accommodate a cargo door and are setup for easy conversion.

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Yeah no.....
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Old 10-26-2017, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash View Post
What current freighter would you hope to replace with a new design 787F? It would carry less then a 777F on a similar length route. It would probably carry about the same amount as a cheaper, current production B767-300F although on a longer stage length. I don’t see where a 787F would fit into today’s cargo routes.
I wasn’t making an argument for a viability, but just telling you what I read somewhere.

As for your question, th 767. Here.....

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Originally Posted by Kougarok View Post
Yeah no.....
Would you care to elaborate? It is established that this cannot be done to a composite fuselage after the fact. It would only make sense.
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