CaptainHvac

I havent spoken with many who are against our volunteers or accuse them of acting unethically; zero actually. They deserve a better pilot group probably. However, I've spoken with many who are sick of the Teamsters as a union because they really havent provided much support to our volunteers. I have yet to witness any support whats so ever from Teamsters National. Kalitta did leave for certain reasons which seemed to be spun by 1224, which I pretty much chalked up to Teamster propoganda anyways. Also, I'm completely unaware of any transparency policy they may have...do they promote this?

suddenimpact

You pretty much nailed it. Just like those that spoke for the passed FPL Amendment found out by their expulsion from the facebook site let alone the already known supporting members that were never allowed on because of their position on it.

Now the same leadership has silenced the Atlas 1224 Web Forums.


IBT is willing to help with resources and has offered, but it has to be requested by the local. It is Atlas 1224 or more to the point Bob Kirchner who has not asked for any help from International. Bob addressed this in a General Membership Meeting and a crew call or two which might still be in the archives on our 1224 site. He said that we didn't need Internationals resources --- yet. BTW, there will be no more recordings of any meetings due to Bob not knowing when to shut up and having it used against us in court. So the local's fix is to not record anything anymore. That leaves about 2/3 of the crews in the dark since only about 1/3 are handy to attend a call/webconference.

They have been promoting transparency and two way communications in the last few Chairman updates, but it is another empty promise. All talk and no real application of the policy. Good marketing but another empty promise exampled by LineUpNWait's comments on the facebook page.

742Dash

Thanks. Interesting read, especially about our situation with the assigned mediator.

Globemaster2827

There was only one person posting on the web forum and he was a complete idiot. We needed to shut that down as nobody was using it.

suddenimpact

Actually, there were quite a few lurkers and definitely more than one poster. Much like the facebook non-official union page (gc_comms), reading and not posting for fear of being pounced on by big tough guys like you or being booted off like so many others for expressing an opinion minutely different than Kirchner or Griffith. The Atlas union forums allowed everyone to see the name of the person posting via their profile. Posts were understandably limited because they were worried about retribution from our leadership started when Kirchner began his reign. You know, eat your own first since taking on the company is harder. Much like anyone identified as speaking positively for the "majority passed" FPL amendment having charges filed against them, booted from FaceBook and everyone of them being exonerated by the President of the local after the investigation. You might want to add these as another reason not to join Atlas on the other hiring threads here.

I do have to agree with you. I was also getting tired of the almost daily "Birthdays" post of guys one year closer to retirement on the Atlas forums.

maxjet

In light of the latest developments. I speak officially for only myself, but feel comfortable stating that it is a common sentiment over here at K4. We would love to have any Atlas Pilots join us.

An experienced 747 or 767 pilot can at this moment project an upgrade in the near future. It appears that K4 will continue to acquire new aircraft as the month go by. We seem to be limited only by personnel at this time.

Lots of expansion rumors over here, from Oscoda maintenance facility expansion, a CMI on Turkish 800’s, to additional CMI DHL 767’s, it runs the full spectrum.

Given an even playing field with pay and benefits K4 has always had a better quality of life.

You might want to look into

JackStraw

Serious question what’s the longest duty day you can have at K4?

maxjet

A double crew can have a maximum duty day of 24 hours. I have never had one. It just doesn’t happen very often.

2 man crew is 16 hours.

3 man crew is 17 amendable to 19 if crew members agree.

JackStraw

24 hours is not much more than our max of 22 hours. I wonder why our guys come down on k4 so hard for doing it. Seems you guys make more money by flying an extra couple of hours while we make more money by working a couple of extra days.

zerozero

Well, I think 20 is too much. I refuse to extend to 22.

18 is acceptable to me, extendable to 20 for some crazy unpredictable reason.