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Old 01-01-2018, 09:43 AM   #21  
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Old timers seem to forget what it is like to work at a US regional, even a decent one... Getting international time in a MD11 or 747 elevates you in the world of piloting from a regional pilot that gets no respect. I could be in the jumpseat of a Delta 757, and the pilots want to hear about flying the 747 around the world. Flying an RJ? They could care less.
You're suggesting bragging rights while jumpseating?
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I could care less what a mainline pilot thinks about me flying an RJ vs a 747. Which one will get me to a legacy first is what matters, not bragging rights.
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It's a known fact that in "America", flying a wide body adds inches to your dick!!
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I could care less what a mainline pilot thinks about me flying an RJ vs a 747. Which one will get me to a legacy first is what matters, not bragging rights.
That would be at a regional with flow
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If you're going to fly a wide body, have it be the 747.
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You're suggesting bragging rights while jumpseating?
No, what I am suggesting is that you are viewed as an equal, which is nice, coming from an RJ.
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No, what I am suggesting is that you are viewed as an equal, which is nice, coming from an RJ.
So it's about image, then.

What difference does it make what the crew thinks of you if you're in their jumpseat? Are you seriously suggesting taking a job for the benefit of looking better, being considered an equal, or however you wish to parse it, while in the jump seat?

If that's your goal, it might work out for you. In my experience, having flown ACMI widebody international, when jumping, nobody cared who I flew for, and most had no idea who my employer was, when I told them.

It really comes down to your goal here. If you're after international experience, that's understandable, and if you're interested in experiencing a wide body airframe, ok. If you want to travel, look for variety, or see this as an opportunity with relatively short upgrade times, there's something. It's not a fast path to a major. I can't imagine the notion of seeking out a job however, in order to upgrade your appearance to the crew operating a flight on which you're jumpseating. Seems a tad overkill for a superficial, even vain benefit, if it could be considered a benefit at all, don't you think?

You're not likely to fly enough hours to fast track yourself anywhere, or to use the job as a stepping stone, so hiring on will need to be for the job itself, rather than some pass-through benefit. If it's about looking good to the cockpit crew of your jumpseat ride, it seems quite an effort to make for a very insignificant return...those impressed crewmembers (they won't be) aren't going to get you closer to an alternate goal.

Sounds like an advanced stage of shiny jet syndrome; big shiny jet syndrome.

I can think of a lot of good reasons to take the job. How it makes you look in passing to mainline crew isn't one of them.
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So it's about image, then.

What difference does it make what the crew thinks of you if you're in their jumpseat? Are you seriously suggesting taking a job for the benefit of looking better, being considered an equal, or however you wish to parse it, while in the jump seat?

If that's your goal, it might work out for you. In my experience, having flown ACMI widebody international, when jumping, nobody cared who I flew for, and most had no idea who my employer was, when I told them.

It really comes down to your goal here. If you're after international experience, that's understandable, and if you're interested in experiencing a wide body airframe, ok. If you want to travel, look for variety, or see this as an opportunity with relatively short upgrade times, there's something. It's not a fast path to a major. I can't imagine the notion of seeking out a job however, in order to upgrade your appearance to the crew operating a flight on which you're jumpseating. Seems a tad overkill for a superficial, even vain benefit, if it could be considered a benefit at all, don't you think?

You're not likely to fly enough hours to fast track yourself anywhere, or to use the job as a stepping stone, so hiring on will need to be for the job itself, rather than some pass-through benefit. If it's about looking good to the cockpit crew of your jumpseat ride, it seems quite an effort to make for a very insignificant return...those impressed crewmembers (they won't be) aren't going to get you closer to an alternate goal.

Sounds like an advanced stage of shiny jet syndrome; big shiny jet syndrome.

I can think of a lot of good reasons to take the job. How it makes you look in passing to mainline crew isn't one of them.
I never sold it as a reason. Itís an afterthought, fringe benefit. Being treated with respect by fellow pilots is a good thing, something most of you take for granted having never flown for a regional or been so long since you have, youíve forgotten what its like.
Itís a real thing.
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I never sold it as a reason. Itís an afterthought, fringe benefit. Being treated with respect by fellow pilots is a good thing, something most of you take for granted having never flown for a regional or been so long since you have, youíve forgotten what its like.
Itís a real thing.
Not dogging you here.
I flew regionals( back then AKA "commuters") flew ACMI and jumpseated either online or offline for 30+ years.
When the Captain welcomed me to ride on the JS or in the back, it was all the "respect" I needed, and I never took it for granted.
Good luck with gate agents though. Had more than a few who were not so helpful. Fly Safe.
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