Western Global pilots help please
12-09-2018, 06:15 AM
#121
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 465
Originally Posted by gsphuntr
I’m just curious, do those of you working 18-23 days straight have spouses? Children? Lives outside of work?
“Sometime extra cash, is just too expensive”
“Sometime extra cash, is just too expensive”
12-09-2018, 08:51 AM
#123
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by gsphuntr
I’m just curious, do those of you working 18-23 days straight have spouses? Children? Lives outside of work?
“Sometime extra cash, is just too expensive”
“Sometime extra cash, is just too expensive”
How about writing, because of the need to work extra days to get the same amount of money my airline pays me, ACMI wouldn’t work for my lifestyle.
That wasn’t so hard was it? Unless, of course you are so insecure that you must be critical of others to validate your own decisions. I have no reason to believe that this represents your situation as I don’t know you. If in fact it does represent you, then maybe it would be more productive if you and others who fit this situation would just ****.
12-10-2018, 06:01 AM
#126
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by No Land 3
He can have it, rather make 300k and not have to do that.
12-10-2018, 06:18 AM
#127
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,006
Originally Posted by 123494
Tell that to a DAL captain making $500k a year.
If someone entered the business to make as much money as they can and fly as little as they can, bully for them.
Not all of us entered flying to do that. Personally I began flying because I wanted to fly as much as possible.
As for a life outside of the job, there's plenty. This year I've had nearly three months off with no duties at all, thanks to the job. That's three months non-stop, nothing to do but go shoot steel competitions, tinker, spend time at a resort with the wife, travel to see kids, even do other work.
I've got Christmas off, and Thanksgiving off. Each of the kids birthdays off. The wife's birthda. off. Our anniversary off. I spent five days in Brazil where my hardest choice was where to eat next. Same in Chile. Two weeks in Europe, and so on.
Five hundred grand is nice, and everyone who does ACMI understands that it doesn't pay what the delta captain is getting. Big, ****ing deal. Seriously.
Not everybody grows up with the privilege, not everyone wants it, and no, money is not everything. Not by a long shot.
Those who are so arrogant as to peer down their noses at everyone else must really believe that the world envies them. What a hollow existence.
12-10-2018, 01:15 PM
#128
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 137
This place is miserable. I just want to know if Western is a decent company worth applying to. I’ll be applying to the ACMIs in the next year or so. Majors are probably a bridge to far for me right now without a 4 year.
12-10-2018, 01:51 PM
#129
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,804
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I don't give two ****s what the delta captain is doing. It's his life, let him do as he wishes.
If someone entered the business to make as much money as they can and fly as little as they can, bully for them.
Not all of us entered flying to do that. Personally I began flying because I wanted to fly as much as possible.
As for a life outside of the job, there's plenty. This year I've had nearly three months off with no duties at all, thanks to the job. That's three months non-stop, nothing to do but go shoot steel competitions, tinker, spend time at a resort with the wife, travel to see kids, even do other work.
I've got Christmas off, and Thanksgiving off. Each of the kids birthdays off. The wife's birthda. off. Our anniversary off. I spent five days in Brazil where my hardest choice was where to eat next. Same in Chile. Two weeks in Europe, and so on.
Five hundred grand is nice, and everyone who does ACMI understands that it doesn't pay what the delta captain is getting. Big, ****ing deal. Seriously.
Not everybody grows up with the privilege, not everyone wants it, and no, money is not everything. Not by a long shot.
Those who are so arrogant as to peer down their noses at everyone else must really believe that the world envies them. What a hollow existence.
If someone entered the business to make as much money as they can and fly as little as they can, bully for them.
Not all of us entered flying to do that. Personally I began flying because I wanted to fly as much as possible.
As for a life outside of the job, there's plenty. This year I've had nearly three months off with no duties at all, thanks to the job. That's three months non-stop, nothing to do but go shoot steel competitions, tinker, spend time at a resort with the wife, travel to see kids, even do other work.
I've got Christmas off, and Thanksgiving off. Each of the kids birthdays off. The wife's birthda. off. Our anniversary off. I spent five days in Brazil where my hardest choice was where to eat next. Same in Chile. Two weeks in Europe, and so on.
Five hundred grand is nice, and everyone who does ACMI understands that it doesn't pay what the delta captain is getting. Big, ****ing deal. Seriously.
Not everybody grows up with the privilege, not everyone wants it, and no, money is not everything. Not by a long shot.
Those who are so arrogant as to peer down their noses at everyone else must really believe that the world envies them. What a hollow existence.
Being senior and having 4 weeks of vacation a year and is great ...easy to get 5 weeks in a row off 4 times a year. Means nothing to the junior guys who are gone 17 days in a row and starving and buy their vacation back and work it to make ends meet.
The reality is...most people are in this line of work for...wait for it....MONEY. That is why they leave their regional job with super seniority and great schedules or their 135 gig that gets them home every night...MONEY..paying the bills is much more important than 30 days off in a row. Seeing your kids eat and having the electric on becomes paramount.
I decided along time ago as 90 percent of new hires are doing today I want to make as much money as possible for every minute that I was away from home. Screw the I just love to fly crap! I love to fly my 172 to a fly in breakfast on my days off and buy 5$ pancakes and tell hanger lies a whole lot more....400k a year gets me out of here alot quicker. YMMV and I really don't care..as you said at the beginning..I really don't give a $#!t! JMO
Last edited by nitefr8dog; 12-10-2018 at 02:08 PM.
12-11-2018, 12:00 AM
#130
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,006
Originally Posted by KA350Driver
This place is miserable. I just want to know if Western is a decent company worth applying to.
There are numerous threads started here by pilots of various operators. Many of them for no other purpose than to tell everyone to stay away, vitriol complaining about the company, the schedulers, the hotels, the food, the pay, the time away, yada, yada, yada.
***** sessions every one.
Have you seen a single one started by WGA pilots?
Make of that what you will.
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