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Old 12-26-2017, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -

(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;

(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;

(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;

(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.







You can't fly more than 60 hours in a two week period. This is why the ACMI companies have a much lower min guarantee because you are working two weeks a month (potential 60 hours) instead of pax companies where you work 4 weeks a month (potential 100 hours).
Dude... you aren LISTENING...Kalitta, ABX, Atlas (to some extent), ATI, and others... operate under Supplemental rules.. there is no 30/7 rule... NONE... there are some 24 and 48 hours rules that force additional rest... but that is all...
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:21 AM
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That sounds like a hoot! Sorry but my goal is to retire the lowest time airline pilot in history.
So..... let’s say you are making 250.00 an hour at K4. They have open time which you work at 375.00 an hour. Would that not get you to your retirement goal faster with less hours worked? Sometimes you have to think a little outside the box.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
§ 121.471 Flight time limitations and rest requirements: All flight crewmembers.
(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed -

(1) 1,000 hours in any calendar year;

(2) 100 hours in any calendar month;

(3) 30 hours in any 7 consecutive days;

(4) 8 hours between required rest periods.





You can't fly more than 60 hours in a two week period. This is why the ACMI companies have a much lower min guarantee because you are working two weeks a month (potential 60 hours) instead of pax companies where you work 4 weeks a month (potential 100 hours).
Find me an ACMI airline that flies more than 60 hours in a 2 week period and I will get an answer for you....

30-40 per MONTH is more realistic.
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Old 12-26-2017, 10:21 AM
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Find me an ACMI airline that flies more than 60 hours in a 2 week period and I will get an answer for you....

30-40 per MONTH is more realistic.
my flight hours for the past 4 years

2014 -- 570
2015 -- 745
2016 -- 486 ( out on medical for 10 weeks )
2017 -- 510 ( upgrade training and with down time no flying for 7 weeks )

During an entire most guys here credit something close to 55 flight hours on average (no OT).. NOT pay hours.. totally different animal.
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Old 12-27-2017, 04:09 PM
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Find me an ACMI airline that flies more than 60 hours in a 2 week period and I will get an answer for you....

30-40 per MONTH is more realistic.

It would just be nice to have an option to fly what you want like other airlines. If you want to fly several trips back to back so that you can get 12 days off in a row than that is great, but if you want to do 3-4 day trips every week and be home every week than that is great too. Having the option to do what you want and work as little or as much as you want to would be better for everyone.
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Old 12-27-2017, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
It would just be nice to have an option to fly what you want like other airlines. If you want to fly several trips back to back so that you can get 12 days off in a row than that is great, but if you want to do 3-4 day trips every week and be home every week than that is great too. Having the option to do what you want and work as little or as much as you want to would be better for everyone.
You should stick to flying pax, perhaps South West is more to your liking, or Spirit. I think you would quickly change your mind if you tried what the rest of us here have been enjoying, but if you insist on keeping that commuter hell of a lifestyle, that's your choice!
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Old 12-27-2017, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
It would just be nice to have an option to fly what you want like other airlines. If you want to fly several trips back to back so that you can get 12 days off in a row than that is great, but if you want to do 3-4 day trips every week and be home every week than that is great too. Having the option to do what you want and work as little or as much as you want to would be better for everyone.
Its just not practical in the business....
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Old 12-27-2017, 06:00 PM
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It does seem that 14 on 14 off would work for the company and give pilots less days worked in the year. You also know what you are doing way in advance. No travel on days off of course
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agreed wayst. but thats what we give up for our gateway travel program, generally.
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Old 12-28-2017, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
It would just be nice to have an option to fly what you want like other airlines. If you want to fly several trips back to back so that you can get 12 days off in a row than that is great, but if you want to do 3-4 day trips every week and be home every week than that is great too. Having the option to do what you want and work as little or as much as you want to would be better for everyone.
The company in our case, flys you to and from work, pays you DH and perdiem, from the time you leave home. Could you imagine the expense of short trip commutes? Home basing would disappear very quickly
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