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Old 04-08-2024, 05:12 PM
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Have CJOs from both Carriers. Class date from K4 with no fleet assignment as of yet. No class date from Omni as of yet. Been riding in the back of Omni being former military, but other than that no other clues. All I have read is doom and gloom on both sides on APC.
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All I have read is doom and gloom on both sides on APC.
Believing anything you read on APC was your first mistake.

If it's me, I'm going with Kalitta, not that you should believe anything you read here, including this.
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Believing anything you read on APC was your first mistake.

If it's me, I'm going with Kalitta, not that you should believe anything you read here, including this.
Omni for 77 type and long(ish) haul pax experience.
If you’re former mil jet jock you may need some straight and level time in a heavy jet.
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Have CJOs from both Carriers. Class date from K4 with no fleet assignment as of yet. No class date from Omni as of yet. Been riding in the back of Omni being former military, but other than that no other clues. All I have read is doom and gloom on both sides on APC.
Often times in this career you need to pick your poison. This would be one of those times.

Look at management teams (and understand where Omni fits under the ATSG umbrella).
Look at maintenance/accident records.
Look at union representation.
Look at basing/commuting.

You could also look at pay/benefits but frankly why bother? If you're former military (college educated) you should have your apps out to all the Legacies and either of these jobs will just be a place holder until you get your "forever" job.

Then add up the plusses/minuses and make your decision.

Pro tip: Just because Omni or Kalitta worked out great for one of your buddies doens't mean it's a great choice for you.
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At least one of those carriers has a recent history of hiring classes of 10-12, with 2 or 3 showing up, and in at least one case, none making it through training. Further, the same company has a relatively recent history of letting the class get through a couple of months of training, then effectively furloughing them three hours before their type ride, and another class being kicked down the road just before their class date. If you've given up your job and put your eggs in the new basket, that might hurt, especially if you've been strung along on a training wage at a hotel with gunfights across the parking lot.

Of course, at the other company, it's not unheard of to have the catalytic converter cut out of your rental car in the hotel parking lot, so go figure.
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Often times in this career you need to pick your poison.

Pro tip: Just because Omni or Kalitta worked out great for one of your buddies doens't mean it's a great choice for you.
Exactly on point! Just from my unit alone we had somewhere around 15 of my friends at Atlas over a decade ago (10 hired within a two year period). Now, 7 remain and those who departed found their priorities at the Majors/Brown/Purple specifically. As I tell all my friends at Brown/Purple "we hook'm, clean'm up and fry'm to be served elsewhere!" if they so choose! We all appear to have found our niche which is the best endgame anyone could have. Eye of the beholder, it's Your Life!

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Until recently I would have said Omni if you're lazy, Kalitta if you're greedy.

But due to Omni's ATSG ownership and what appears to be a slide in to difficult times, I think I would say Kalitta in either case.
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Appreciate the insight. Thanks again!
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I joined Kalitta last October. Some great instructors & people. Very family oriented. IDK anything about furloughs or canceled classes but I might be wrong.

Contract negotiations now.



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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 View Post
I joined Kalitta last October. Some great instructors & people. Very family oriented. IDK anything about furloughs or canceled classes but I might be wrong.

Contract negotiations now.



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He was talking about Omni
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