Western Global Airlines
04-08-2019, 03:08 AM
#71
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,901
Originally Posted by FrontSeat2
What did he say that was wrong?
04-08-2019, 09:13 AM
#72
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: B747 F/O
Posts: 48
Originally Posted by captjns
Was there an ongoing action? That said FrontSeat2, What did Waorbital say that was, in your opinion, appropriate?
Frontseat2 don't bother, its not worth it! Just let this end and move on!
04-08-2019, 10:00 AM
#73
The NeverEnding Story
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,501
WGA flying UPS routes, which created difficulties for UPS pilots getting to/from work, is a basic statement of fact and not a knock on WGA pilots.
No UPS pilot will weep when the white MDs disappear from our ramp (at least until Peak); this is another statement of fact and once again NOT a knock on WGA pilots.
We’ve got nothing against you guys, we just don’t like you all flying our volume (outside of Peak)...which we recognize wasn’t your individual or collective decision but rather a blatant scope violation by OUR employer.
I think the overwhelming majority wish absolutely no ill will toward y’all - we just don’t want you doing our flying.
Again - that isn’t a knock on you folks there just earning a paycheck...
No UPS pilot will weep when the white MDs disappear from our ramp (at least until Peak); this is another statement of fact and once again NOT a knock on WGA pilots.
We’ve got nothing against you guys, we just don’t like you all flying our volume (outside of Peak)...which we recognize wasn’t your individual or collective decision but rather a blatant scope violation by OUR employer.
I think the overwhelming majority wish absolutely no ill will toward y’all - we just don’t want you doing our flying.
Again - that isn’t a knock on you folks there just earning a paycheck...
04-08-2019, 11:34 AM
#74
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,901
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
WGA flying UPS routes, which created difficulties for UPS pilots getting to/from work, is a basic statement of fact and not a knock on WGA pilots.
No UPS pilot will weep when the white MDs disappear from our ramp (at least until Peak); this is another statement of fact and once again NOT a knock on WGA pilots.
We’ve got nothing against you guys, we just don’t like you all flying our volume (outside of Peak)...which we recognize wasn’t your individual or collective decision but rather a blatant scope violation by OUR employer.
I think the overwhelming majority wish absolutely no ill will toward y’all - we just don’t want you doing our flying.
Again - that isn’t a knock on you folks there just earning a paycheck...
No UPS pilot will weep when the white MDs disappear from our ramp (at least until Peak); this is another statement of fact and once again NOT a knock on WGA pilots.
We’ve got nothing against you guys, we just don’t like you all flying our volume (outside of Peak)...which we recognize wasn’t your individual or collective decision but rather a blatant scope violation by OUR employer.
I think the overwhelming majority wish absolutely no ill will toward y’all - we just don’t want you doing our flying.
Again - that isn’t a knock on you folks there just earning a paycheck...
Now if UPS were parking jets and furloughing, then that’s just not cricket.
Last edited by captjns; 04-08-2019 at 11:45 AM.
04-08-2019, 11:45 AM
#75
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Posts: 7,501
Originally Posted by captjns
So... no job action taking place at UPS. UPS hired lift from WGA. A problem has been identified. Shouldn’t you guys take this issue up with your MEC? Let them hash out the Scope issues with management.
The issue of UPS violating the IPA scope clause has already been affirmed by an arbitrator, with damages for that violation awarded to IPA pilots and a decree that WGA will be off UPS property by 29 June 19.
We can be unhappy you are performing our flying, in violation of our scope clause, while simultaneously understanding the beef isn’t with WGA pilots simply doing their jobs but rather our employer who contracted with WGA in the first place.
04-08-2019, 11:59 AM
#76
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
The issue of UPS violating the IPA scope clause has already been affirmed by an arbitrator, with damages for that violation awarded to IPA pilots and a decree that WGA will be off UPS property by 29 June 19.
We can be unhappy you are performing our flying, in violation of our scope clause, while simultaneously understanding the beef isn’t with WGA pilots simply doing their jobs but rather our employer who contracted with WGA in the first place.
We can be unhappy you are performing our flying, in violation of our scope clause, while simultaneously understanding the beef isn’t with WGA pilots simply doing their jobs but rather our employer who contracted with WGA in the first place.
04-08-2019, 12:07 PM
#77
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 113
Originally Posted by captjns
So... no job action taking place at UPS. UPS hired lift from WGA. A problem has been identified. Shouldn’t you guys take this issue up with your MEC? Let them hash out the Scope issues with management.
Now if UPS were parking jets and furloughing, then that’s just not cricket.
Now if UPS were parking jets and furloughing, then that’s just not cricket.
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