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Old 07-18-2018, 06:12 PM
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How days off guranteed? Zero all days subject to JR mann!

Is there a limit to the number of days you can be required to sit ready reserve at the airport and not allowed to leave for food? No reserves can be required to work ready reserve an un limited number of days a month or in a row.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:05 AM
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How days off guranteed? Zero all days subject to JR mann!

Is there a limit to the number of days you can be required to sit ready reserve at the airport and not allowed to leave for food? No reserves can be required to work ready reserve an un limited number of days a month or in a row.
Limit...24/7
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:24 AM
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Limit...24/7
And many times the 24/7 is on the road. Just look at the schedulesame every month and the cpt who in 2016 worked 60 some days straight!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:11 AM
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And many times the 24/7 is on the road. Just look at the schedulesame every month and the cpt who in 2016 worked 60 some days straight!
Cha ching!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
Cha ching!
More times than not, the money isnt worth it.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:01 PM
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More times than not, the money isnt worth it.
It's usually the main reason people are working these $hi# schedules and willing to have a job that takes them away from their families for weeks at a time...money! It's also the biggest roadblock in contract talks. Otherwise we would already have a K4 or Omni contract.
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:17 PM
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They work more to make more. But then they are never home, and the spouse leaves them. So the extra 30% they were making, is actually a 20% pay cut.
We need to make it so expensive that they have to hire enough people to cover all the flights. I’m not getting a divorce because of ABX.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:56 PM
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Some came here to ABX Air an ATSG company with hopes that Amazon Prime Air was going to pan out and be something big and it has not and doesn't seem to be for several years down the road. Over 50% have left so far and others are trying to leave as quickly as possible. Ask yourself these questions.

Do you really want to work for a company that takes concessions from Pilots to stay alive then becomes very profitable gives management bonuses and raises their salaries yet drags out contract negotiations for three and a half years for Pilots?

Do you want to work for a company that demands you be lower-paid than everyone else in the industry to get flying? even the Regionals don't do that anymore.

Do you want to work for a company ABX air Inc that just six months ago threatened to furlough Pilots at the beginning of 2018?

Do you want to work for a company ABX Air, that is in Jeopardy of losing half of its flying with DHL if they can't reach a pilot agreement?

Do you want to work for a company that has over 50 fos with 20-plus years seniority that have never had the chance to upgrade?

Do you want to work for a company that has an upgraded anybody in over a year?
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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd View Post
Some came here to ABX Air an ATSG company with hopes that Amazon Prime Air was going to pan out and be something big and it has not and doesn't seem to be for several years down the road. Over 50% have left so far and others are trying to leave as quickly as possible. Ask yourself these questions.

Do you really want to work for a company that takes concessions from Pilots to stay alive then becomes very profitable gives management bonuses and raises their salaries yet drags out contract negotiations for three and a half years for Pilots?

Do you want to work for a company that demands you be lower-paid than everyone else in the industry to get flying? even the Regionals don't do that anymore.

Do you want to work for a company ABX air Inc that just six months ago threatened to furlough Pilots at the beginning of 2018?

Do you want to work for a company ABX Air, that is in Jeopardy of losing half of its flying with DHL if they can't reach a pilot agreement?

Do you want to work for a company that has over 50 fos with 20-plus years seniority that have never had the chance to upgrade?

Do you want to work for a company that has an upgraded anybody in over a year?
Was just talking to a regional CA the other day who told me that he was considering ATI because he thinks Amazon may buy them out, and would love to be on the ground floor of that airline.
It seems you need to target the regional guys better with your message.
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Do you want to work for an airline where the latest captain upgrade had a date of hire in 1996!!! With 0 plans for upgrade in anytime soon...
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