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Old 02-20-2019, 12:40 PM
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You compared pay vs pay and your wrong....its ok you can say it
Actually the APC numbers were wrong. The actual CBA’s show I was actually conservative about $13.

In all fairness their step raises stop this year though.
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Old 03-02-2019, 11:00 AM
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Reason 167 repeated contract violations! How many times do pilots have to file grievances to get paid properly?????
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:01 PM
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Reason 167 repeated contract violations! How many times do pilots have to file grievances to get paid properly?????
168.....you have to fight to just get ice on planes!
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:07 PM
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168.....you have to fight to just get ice on planes!
You need a different job bro...... At my place, we throw away so much good catering after each flight that I feel bad about it....
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:18 AM
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You need a different job bro...... At my place, we throw away so much good catering after each flight that I feel bad about it....
50% leave in the first 2 years of being at abx the other 50% are waiting for a call from anyone else!

We have lost pilots to K4, Atlas, Envoy, corporate. ...rats jumping off the sinking ship!
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by goinaround View Post
You need a different job bro...... At my place, we throw away so much good catering after each flight that I feel bad about it....


At my place we have a few trips that get catered like that. I flew one a little while ago that we threw out half of it. It was about 7 hrs with 3 legs. The first 2 legs we didn’t have time to eat. Would have been great to get a little more food somewhere in there but not enough time.

On the DHL network, we could use more...maybe just getting to look at a menu would help with hunger a little.


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Old 03-17-2019, 12:32 AM
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Life at ABX....

Trades denied for made up reasons.

At least once a month somebody gets sick from the little catering we do get.

They are still "working" on getting ice on all the planes.

Grievances growing because they refuse to pay properly or approve trades.

Going on 5 years without a contract and no end in sight no matter what they try and tell you.

Constant threats about your career...be the cheapest or you will never see another airplane!

Does that sound like a great job worth quitting your current job for?
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:53 AM
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Reserve chief pilot claims you can be on call for 16 hours then be assigned to fly all night! And the whole management team sees no problem with this!
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:45 PM
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Reserve chief pilot claims you can be on call for 16 hours then be assigned to fly all night! And the whole management team sees no problem with this!
No such animal as a Reserve chief pilot at ABX and article 18.F.3 covers reserve assignments and there are limits depending on where in your available time you might get assigned and you can’t be assigned after being on call for 16 hours as your day is done. Keep throwing trash.
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Originally Posted by Makinitup View Post
No such animal as a Reserve chief pilot at ABX and article 18.F.3 covers reserve assignments and there are limits depending on where in your available time you might get assigned and you can’t be assigned after being on call for 16 hours as your day is done. Keep throwing trash.


What the story is, the contract is the only thing that outlines a duty day. 121 supplemental for us at least says, “your duty day starts at report time.” This issue has been brought up by a couple pilots that were assigned to a duty period with not proper rest before an assignment. They went to the Chief Pilot and he said the company does not see R2/3 as duty.

R2/3 counts toward a 1:7 though.
You must answer your phone or face a missed trip
You can not drink on R2/3

This isn’t an issue of the contract. Although the company tries to follow the contract and the flow chart, there is nothing FAA regulating about this. The pilots need an LOI determining what is duty.

Combined with R2/3 and a trip, someone recently work like a 22 hour duty day.


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