101 Reasons to Not Work For ACMIs (ABX, ATI,
03-28-2019, 04:09 AM
#301
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Joined APC: Nov 2018
Posts: 10
Are the schedulers actually saying that now? I see the memo is from 2016. I know there was some drama about "scripts" being used a while back.
Either way, that's dumb. A lawful directive? Really?
Crazy idea- treat people like people.
But hey, if you don't like it, you can always "grief" it. FFS.
Either way, that's dumb. A lawful directive? Really?
Crazy idea- treat people like people.
But hey, if you don't like it, you can always "grief" it. FFS.
03-29-2019, 03:17 AM
#305
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 28
Originally Posted by CardboardCutout
There are degrees of animosity. My impression of Kalitta is that it is kind of a back-slappy good-ole boy kind of animosity. Connie knows that the pilots are going to try to take whatever they can get, and the crews know that Connie is going to try to give them just exactly as much as it takes to keep the rubber dog-doody moving, and not a penny more. But they probably all still eat barbecue together at the company picnic for the three weeks a year a picnic is a sane thing to have in Michigan.
Now, I may be wrong, don't know that much about the place, but if that's the case, there are worse relationships to have with your management. Kind of like the Roadrunner and Wile-E Coyote clocking in at the beginning of the day. "Morning Frank. Morning Bob."
Now, I may be wrong, don't know that much about the place, but if that's the case, there are worse relationships to have with your management. Kind of like the Roadrunner and Wile-E Coyote clocking in at the beginning of the day. "Morning Frank. Morning Bob."
The Warner Brother’s reference is perfect, borrowing that one!
03-29-2019, 04:01 AM
#306
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Joined APC: Nov 2018
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by ACMItrash
Likley the only company in the world the requires a DR note if you don't work on a day off and the require you too!
What they don't do is provide threatening scripts for their schedulers. In addition to it being supremely ****ty to treat people that way, it's extremely unfair to put the schedulers in this position. It creates animosity when there shouldn't be any. Scheduling doesn't care if you don't want to fly today- they just want somebody to fly so they don't have to keep talking to voicemails and can move on with their day.
03-30-2019, 11:51 PM
#310
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 31
FACT:
Originally Posted by ACMItrash
Dispute these facts:
FACT...There has not been a net gain in aircraft in over 3 years!
FACT ..contract negotiations have been going on for over 4 years.
FACT...the president constantly threatens to shut the place down!
FACT...50% of new hires have quit within the first 2 years!
FACT....several new hires have failed training and we're fired or resigned!
FACT.....no new airplanes are scheduled to be delivered to ABX.
FACT....the last upgrade had a 1996 hires date and there are almost 50 pilots in the FO seat with 20 plus years of seniority!
FACT there are over 100 FOs... (do the math on upgrade time)
FACT the reserve system has no long call, no early release, no per diem unless a trip is assigned, nothing but a "requser for a trip that doesn't have to be followed" no hotels in domicile, hot reserve at the airport with up to 12 hours on duty!
FACT ...there are many (like alot) grievances on file for pilots not being paid properly or denied trip trades!
There are plenty more. Do you still want to defend this TOXIC work environment?
Are there any ABX pilots who would like to verify all the above FACTS? Maybe add a few more....
ATSG
Pilot jobs ABX
ABX pilot application
FACT...There has not been a net gain in aircraft in over 3 years!
FACT ..contract negotiations have been going on for over 4 years.
FACT...the president constantly threatens to shut the place down!
FACT...50% of new hires have quit within the first 2 years!
FACT....several new hires have failed training and we're fired or resigned!
FACT.....no new airplanes are scheduled to be delivered to ABX.
FACT....the last upgrade had a 1996 hires date and there are almost 50 pilots in the FO seat with 20 plus years of seniority!
FACT there are over 100 FOs... (do the math on upgrade time)
FACT the reserve system has no long call, no early release, no per diem unless a trip is assigned, nothing but a "requser for a trip that doesn't have to be followed" no hotels in domicile, hot reserve at the airport with up to 12 hours on duty!
FACT ...there are many (like alot) grievances on file for pilots not being paid properly or denied trip trades!
There are plenty more. Do you still want to defend this TOXIC work environment?
Are there any ABX pilots who would like to verify all the above FACTS? Maybe add a few more....
ATSG
Pilot jobs ABX
ABX pilot application
FACT: Just to get some of the new hires thru training the simulator and IOE time has been doubled; YET some still fail almost every class.
FACT: ACMI carriers always cut themselves short. Amazon and DHL compete with UPS and FedEx. Amazon and DHL should pay UPS AND FEDEX wages.
I’m sure there are many more Facts. ATSG, ABX pilot.....
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