101 Reasons to Not Work For ACMIs (ABX, ATI,
05-05-2018, 06:52 AM
#81
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Posts: 67
Food for thought.
Within the next 5 years 1/3 of the ATI seniority list will retire. In 10 years about half of the seniority list will retire.
I suspect the numbers are similliar for ABX.
A lot of the “151’s” and other younger pilots will probably also move on in the next 5 years as well.
There could be a very different pilot culture driving these airlines in the next few years.
JH is also at the end of his career. He could quit at any time. Maybe the whole dynamic will change.
Within the next 5 years 1/3 of the ATI seniority list will retire. In 10 years about half of the seniority list will retire.
I suspect the numbers are similliar for ABX.
A lot of the “151’s” and other younger pilots will probably also move on in the next 5 years as well.
There could be a very different pilot culture driving these airlines in the next few years.
JH is also at the end of his career. He could quit at any time. Maybe the whole dynamic will change.
05-05-2018, 09:04 AM
#82
RJ Furlough
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: ERJ145 F/O
Posts: 277
Originally Posted by Asci
Food for thought.
Within the next 5 years 1/3 of the ATI seniority list will retire. In 10 years about half of the seniority list will retire.
I suspect the numbers are similliar for ABX.
A lot of the “151’s” and other younger pilots will probably also move on in the next 5 years as well.
There could be a very different pilot culture driving these airlines in the next few years.
JH is also at the end of his career. He could quit at any time. Maybe the whole dynamic will change.
Within the next 5 years 1/3 of the ATI seniority list will retire. In 10 years about half of the seniority list will retire.
I suspect the numbers are similliar for ABX.
A lot of the “151’s” and other younger pilots will probably also move on in the next 5 years as well.
There could be a very different pilot culture driving these airlines in the next few years.
JH is also at the end of his career. He could quit at any time. Maybe the whole dynamic will change.
05-05-2018, 10:09 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd
Did OMNI pass their TA? You know the one that has higher rates than ATI?
05-11-2018, 05:14 PM
#85
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Looks like Jet Blue has a new TA. The list is growing of carriers that have a contract better than ATI, ABX, and Atlas Southern! ....chime in alpa management ATI saying how swell of a job it is there choosing from a 16 dayso in a row trip schedule or a 16 dayso in a row schedule.
07-02-2018, 01:49 PM
#88
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Yep Spirit, Jet Blue, Allegiant still have more pay, retirement and better work rules than any ACMI. Why come here and quit? Nearly 50% quit in the first 2 years. Some don't even make it 3 months before getting a taste of ready reserve and being required to work on days off! No upgrades in over a year and none in sight! Contracts ATIs new deal is worse than all ACMI, ABX the Co isn't serious about a real deal, they still think people want to work for less than everyone else in the industry!
07-02-2018, 02:21 PM
#89
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101 Reasons to Not Work For ACMIs (ABX, ATI,
The last upgrade class at ABX has been well over a year ago, the most junior DOH was in 1996.... 22 year upgrade, currently the absolute worse airline regarding upgrade time.
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07-02-2018, 02:44 PM
#90
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Maybe thats why several 20 plus year fo's have quit too. They don't see upgrade anytime soon. I mean really 20 years no up grade and you give up 20 years to start at the bottom elsewhere. If you'try reading this and still thinking ABX is a good choice....you must have a really bad flying record! Even K4 with a bad cba has 2 year upgrades!
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