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Old 01-20-2019, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
He did not mention the 50% is in a class of 2...as usual he embellishes the facts. There are always 1 or 2 who struggle. After 20 yrs training pilots to fly the 767 ABX training is as good as it gets. But give all the information or as usual you sound like an idiot. 50% in a class of 20...now that would be of interest.

If there werent enough reasons...a chief pilot who thinks it's ok and legal to sit on reserve for 15 hour then go fly. Toxic!
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You will get a TV dinner on Christmas at ABX..lol


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Old 01-29-2019, 01:40 AM
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[QUOTE=johnny150;2750799]You will get a TV dinner on Christmas at ABX..lol


Do you know what Spirit, Jet Blue, Frontier and Southwest all have in common?

They all have respectable contracts with great benefits, more days off than acmi, and managements that have a vision with defined growth!

And they are all hiring! Some of them have 2~3 year upgrades with up to 3x the retirement of abx, ati, atlas or omni!

If you're buddy (or management on here) is trying to talk you into acmi he wants you to feel his pain!
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Has anyone looked at how many regionals have higher 1st year pay than most ACMI carriers? Why don't any of the ACMI carriers have meaningful trip duty rigs and min day credit? That adds about an extra 15-30k to annual salary!
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Has anyone looked at how many regionals have higher 1st year pay than most ACMI carriers? Why don't any of the ACMI carriers have meaningful trip duty rigs and min day credit? That adds about an extra 15-30k to annual salary!
Because they don’t have to. Entry level pilots are seeking employment with regionals that have “Flow” programs to the main lines.
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Has anyone looked at how many regionals have higher 1st year pay than most ACMI carriers? Why don't any of the ACMI carriers have meaningful trip duty rigs and min day credit? That adds about an extra 15-30k to annual salary!
Dude, seriously... we get it, you hate your ACMI. Some of us don’t. In my case, I made more as a first year FO than I ever did at a regional, even at 10 year CA pay thanks to the lost decade.
I’m off two weeks at a time every month. I spend zero time thinking about commuting, they buy my seats and I keep the air miles. I don’t need a crashpad since they buy my hotels every night away from home, and I keep most of those hotel awards too. Our top step CA pay is $13 an hour more than AA on the same equipment.

Not all ACMI’s are crap. In fact, for many it’s a much better lifestyle than commuting 3-5 times a month, often on days off for uncommutable trips; then having to carefully plan your vacation time to get a month off, while we can do it every other month if we wanted to.

Different folks have different needs. For many the Kalitta, Omni, ATI, Western Global type of places offer a realistic and decent career option. Eventually Atlas/Southern will get a good contract too.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
Dude, seriously... we get it, you hate your ACMI. Some of us don’t. In my case, I made more as a first year FO than I ever did at a regional, even at 10 year CA pay thanks to the lost decade.
I’m off two weeks at a time every month. I spend zero time thinking about commuting, they buy my seats and I keep the air miles. I don’t need a crashpad since they buy my hotels every night away from home, and I keep most of those hotel awards too. Our top step CA pay is $13 an hour more than AA on the same equipment.

Not all ACMI’s are crap. In fact, for many it’s a much better lifestyle than commuting 3-5 times a month, often on days off for uncommutable trips; then having to carefully plan your vacation time to get a month off, while we can do it every other month if we wanted to.

Different folks have different needs. For many the Kalitta, Omni, ATI, Western Global type of places offer a realistic and decent career option. Eventually Atlas/Southern will get a good contract too.
That all sounds really peachy, but to be quite honest, it's also totally off topic.

Check the thread. This is the one you come to when you WANT to b!#@% about the ACMI segment of the airline industry.

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You will get a TV dinner on Christmas at ABX..lol


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Our company told CA’s on trips to use the company credit card and buy for the crew, try to stay under $50 per meal, no booze on the company.
Those not on trips, including FO’s on reserve in hotels were also authorized to use the company card for a holiday meal.

Like I’ve said, not all ACMI’s are the same.
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That all sounds really peachy, but to be quite honest, it's also totally off topic.

Check the thread. This is the one you come to when you WANT to b!#@% about the ACMI segment of the airline industry.

Okay, I’ll play along....

It’s terrible, the quality of our crew meals has greatly deteriorated. We don’t get the Salmon hardly at all anymore and it’s just steak or chicken.
Yep, that’s the big complaint our union is dealing with.

Give a pilot a bar of gold, he’ll complain it’s too heavy.
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Give a pilot a bar of gold, he’ll complain it’s too heavy.
Thanks for playing. But, that, is not exactly how it works in ACMI.

It's more like, "Welcome to ACMI Airlines. Congratulations for making it this far. You're truly one out of thousands who have survived our grueling recruitment process. We're so happy you're here and we hope you'll make this your home for the rest of your career. You're part of our family now, and to express our eternal gratitude, support and encouragement, we're going to be delivering a GOLD BAR to your home address just before Christmas time so even your family at home will see how much we VALUE your contribution to our mission."

Sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas this arrives in the mail.

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