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Old 01-19-2018, 06:47 PM   #1  
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Default 101 Reasons to Not Work For ACMIs (ABX, ATI,

Time to assemble a solid list of the reasons you should avoid these carriers. Iíll start:

1. (ABX) Unlimited ability to junior man you on your days off. Weddings, birthdays, etc. donít matter even if you were awarded those days off.

2. (ABX) How does sitting hot reserve at CVG for 12 hours from noon to midnight sound? Thereís a lot of this!

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We get to work for scumbags!
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You mean sit airport reserve for 12 hrs only to be extended an extra 3 hrs and come back and do it again the next day, and the next day, and the next day...oh and only get paid for 5 hrs.


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You mean sit airport reserve for 12 hrs only to be extended an extra 3 hrs and come back and do it again the next day, and the next day, and the next day...oh and only get paid for 5 hrs.


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You're kidding? Even at a lowly regional they can only put 8 hours of ready reserve per day on us. Yikes...
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You're kidding? Even at a lowly regional they can only put 8 hours of ready reserve per day on us. Yikes...


Unfortunately now a regional is a much better option...


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121 vs 117. Thanks a lot OMB and BHO.
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121 vs 117. Thanks a lot OMB and BHO.
I could see why *you* might want 117, for those of us that arenít abused and put away wet, 117 is nothing more than a huge paycut.
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Im not sure mgmt here even realized how far behind this place really is. Were bidding on paper. Were flying planes with no CPDLC, no ACARS, paper jepps (although I think they're working on that), no coffee makers and often times no food.

Even the regionals are decades ahead of this place technology wise. Plus they get travel benefits. I came here because the pay was better. But if I go back to reserve and have to get a crash pad in cvg the money wont be there. Definitely not enough to justify being gone a month at a time.

I don't tell other pilots what to do. Go ahead and apply if you want. Come get you some 42k. But I think most us new hires are packing our bags. Just fyi.
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Im not sure mgmt here even realized how far behind this place really is. Were bidding on paper. Were flying planes with no CPDLC, no ACARS, paper jepps (although I think they're working on that), no coffee makers and often times no food.

Even the regionals are decades ahead of this place technology wise. Plus they get travel benefits. I came here because the pay was better. But if I go back to reserve and have to get a crash pad in cvg the money wont be there. Definitely not enough to justify being gone a month at a time.

I don't tell other pilots what to do. Go ahead and apply if you want. Come get you some 42k. But I think most us new hires are packing our bags. Just fyi.
I would think management only cares about shareholders.
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Man even Envoy is offering a $45000 bonus just to start there....then $68 an hour as a captain.....
ABX ....$44000 after a year of hard working back side of the clock...
there is no money to be made nor an upgrade in sight ...
I dont see any smart pilot applying and coming over here knowing what in this forum people are saying and living the "DREAM"
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