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Old 02-02-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wings1856 View Post
I find it interesting that majority making comments on this contract don't even work for ATI.
As it has been the case since the days of CompuServe. The permanently angry can always be counted on to call upon others to make sacrifices and fall on their swords.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:09 PM
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It was only a matter of time before news like this comes out. It happens to be ATI at this go round. Before everyone, particularly ABX pilots, but it's inclusive to all 1224 pilots, jumps off the deep end speculating whether or not the ATI negotiations committee secured a quality agreement for their group take a moment of pause.

Time will tell all...

Hopefully they have an A+ deal on the table, if not don't be too quickly to pull the trigger on these guys. The group as a whole may in fact vote it down if required; that in itself can be a message to their company and the industry as a whole.

Congrats if it's good....time will tell all.
I know. What if the deal is good? Maybe Bezos wants stability in his labor market. I think we need to hold all complaints until we read it as opposed to assuming that the ATI leadership are idiots.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:32 PM
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I'm surprised no on here has provided the TA details yet.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:38 PM
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No retro
No signing bonus
“No Vote”

Just barely over Kalitta with an increase in rig by 3-4hr and pay rate the rest

Scheduling ???

Business OR BETTER ??

Scale wide cola, think not
We all know where you came from. Kalitta would love to have you!!!
Good luck and get lost
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by abxflyr View Post
It was only a matter of time before news like this comes out. It happens to be ATI at this go round. Before everyone, particularly ABX pilots, but it's inclusive to all 1224 pilots, jumps off the deep end speculating whether or not the ATI negotiations committee secured a quality agreement for their group take a moment of pause.

Time will tell all...

Hopefully they have an A+ deal on the table, if not don't be too quickly to pull the trigger on these guys. The group as a whole may in fact vote it down if required; that in itself can be a message to their company and the industry as a whole.

Congrats if it's good....time will tell all.
Agreed ABXflyr, I think we're done being at the bottom, kudos.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wings1856 View Post
I find it interesting that majority making comments on this contract don't even work for ATI. As a matter of fact, that seems to be the case overall...in my observation. The hidden profane language also shows what kind of mind some may have (eg. midnightshuttle). Sorry, Another observation. Comment on your own contracts. Realize we are all fighting for a better life and maybe look in the mirror occasionally.
I don't need to eat a spoon full of dog sh#t to know I won't like the taste of it!
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:18 AM
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These are approx numbers that should be very close with a and a nod


BUG 60
16 on 12 off
13 period in a yr
top capt 275 with a 60 so 215'ish annually

scales still stop at 12 with those over 12 getting a cola

Heard they Vestal stick to his letter on the junior payscales

No A or B plan still a 401 matching at current rate

No scale wide cola No retro

Business or Better or nothing to prevent payroll errors (they are numerous)
etc etc.

MEC/CNC meeting with T. Saturday our union attorney and ALPA to get some sort of brief out ASAP before rumors shoot it down before it even comes out.

Im not sure it matches or exceeds Kallita with DOS+1,2,3 But its a step up from where we are now. Lets just hold off and wait to see what it says. Doubt we will get better so lets take a serious look at it.
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Scaaabs get what scaaabs deserve.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wings1856 View Post
I find it interesting that majority making comments on this contract don't even work for ATI. As a matter of fact, that seems to be the case overall...in my observation. The hidden profane language also shows what kind of mind some may have (eg. midnightshuttle). Sorry, Another observation. Comment on your own contracts. Realize we are all fighting for a better life and maybe look in the mirror occasionally.
You Nailed it
they have their agendas in mind - not yours
Glad to see your Team has a TA
if your group likes it - it will be ratified
simple as that
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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee View Post
Doubt we will get better so lets take a serious look at it.
Certainly not with that mentality. The coming weeks are gonna be hilarious as we watch the ALPA/ATI mantra become, “Just take the deal guys and we get all the flying”
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