DC8DRIVER

Pretty short sighted.

I know several ATI pilots who would support their union brothers no matter what. While there amy be one or two who disagree, to call all ATI pilots "scaaabs" is wrong.

They deserve the best possible contract.

DC8DRIVER

ATI pilots need to hold out for the contract that you deserve. There has never been a better time for airline pilots to negotiate - the market is skewed heavily in your favor.

As far as the "keep your noses out of out business" crowd, just remember that the rest of the ACMI world will have your backs if push comes to shove. We are all soldiers in the same war and the enemy is not us.

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motorclutch

Yes it was pretty over the top! The membership should be able to determine what they will accept for their future.

JT8D

My previous comment alluded to their MEC, not the entire group. The entire group hasn’t even voted on it yet...

It took more than one or two people within their MEC to make a deliberate decision to NOT support the ABX strike. Said people are, by definiton, scaaabs (had to spell it that way to bypass the filter).

They deserve what they can negotiate.

Wings1856

Typical...real brave on the other end of a keyboard. SAD

Stratocruzr

They crossed a known picketing line.

Stratocruzr

AMEN!!!
Just say No!

Reactivity

Perhaps, but I'd estimate that a good number of those work for another ATSG company, so they know the deal. And the deal with ATSG is that the only "industry standard" contract they're interested in is one that sets the standard very low. So whatever ATI has in front of them right now, I'll be shocked if it's anything good. If it's not good and they take it because it's perceived to be better than what they have and they despair of ever getting anything better, ATSG will use that as leverage on ABX (and AAWW on Atlas, etc.), making ATI pilots, in effect, a bunch of tools. Take that any way you want.

If ATI pilots take a subpar contract because they think it's the magic elixir that will make Amazon scoop them up, then I'd advise them to remember the old adage, "Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it." Unless and until Amazon becomes a major player in express shipping, Amazon Prime Air will be a major expense, and management will be looking to minimize that expense at every turn. It will be very difficult to raise the bar down the road.

JT8D

My prior statement is an undeniable fact. As to your comment on “bravery”, I held the line that day, where the hell were you?? Out being “brave”?

Perhaps your apparent need to defend said scaaabs is an indication as to your whereabouts on that cold morning....

Screwed

The undeniable fact is that ATI pilots DID NOT SUPPORT the ABX strike.

They crossed the line INTENTIONALLY. Not only did they cross the line but they did so with the intention of harming their fellow ATSG brothers and rewarding themselves. They cannot deny what they did and why they did it.

Their excuses are pathetic.

In addition, ALPA is forever tainted by the stupidity and cowardice of those days. i will never trust ALPA again and I was a member there for over 20 years total.