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Old 02-07-2018, 11:48 AM
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I’m considering putting in my app. Once Connie does, is there any reason to believe that the airline wouldn’t continue to run?
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:17 PM
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I’m considering putting in my app. Once Connie does, is there any reason to believe that the airline wouldn’t continue to run?
Connie is a tough old bastard. He has many years left.

But when the time comes....I am sure has a plan of succession. He sure as hell doesn't want his legacy marred by a failed airline.

Connie maybe a SOB, but he is not stupid like Del Smith!

Put your app in ASAP!
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I’m considering putting in my app. Once Connie does, is there any reason to believe that the airline wouldn’t continue to run?
Really doesn't need its own thread...but here goes...

The answer to your question is we have no idea...if anyone tells you different they're just speaking out of their rear-end.

Some say their's a five year plan in place where the company can't be sold...Some say Doug's going to run it for at least a while...some say it will be sold to Atlas...

It's aviation man...no one knows what tomorrow is going to bring...I can give you a list of places that no one wanted to go to, that are now career places. I can also give you a list of places that were supposedly rock solid and then went Tango Uniform.

Always keep your resume updated...always have a strike/savings/job search account...buckle up...and enjoy the ride...
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Thanks. I have about $350k in my 401k, so if the $hit hits the fan, I’ve got some reserve (that I don’t want to touch).

Overall, Kalitta really appeals to me. I’m in a corporate job right now that pays $200k per year, but when the owner dies, it’s done. Not sure that I want to go to another job that’s no different.

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Really doesn't need its own thread...but here goes...

The answer to your question is we have no idea...if anyone tells you different they're just speaking out of their rear-end.

Some say their's a five year plan in place where the company can't be sold...Some say Doug's going to run it for at least a while...some say it will be sold to Atlas...

It's aviation man...no one knows what tomorrow is going to bring...I can give you a list of places that no one wanted to go to, that are now career places. I can also give you a list of places that were supposedly rock solid and then went Tango Uniform.

Always keep your resume updated...always have a strike/savings/job search account...buckle up...and enjoy the ride...
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:27 PM
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For what it’s worth, Ned Wallace referred me years ago and personally told Connie to hire me if I ever knock on his door.
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For what it’s worth, Ned Wallace referred me years ago and personally told Connie to hire me if I ever knock on his door.
Nice name drop. I wouldn’t be looking for “special” treatment.

Honestly No one knows what is in store next week let alone years from now. Doug will take over and we will all see what happens.
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Nice name drop. I wouldn’t be looking for “special” treatment.

Honestly No one knows what is in store next week let alone years from now. Doug will take over and we will all see what happens.
Honest question, what’s wrong with using a referral? Especially a referral from someone who helped Connie get off the ground.
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For what it’s worth, Ned Wallace referred me years ago and personally told Connie to hire me if I ever knock on his door.
Ah that explains why you’re looking at Kalitta... maybe it’ll be the easy “in” you’re hoping for, maybe not the way the industry changes. Put your app in and see how it goes... I’ve seen several “gauranteed in’s” including one of my own end up with TBNT because things and people change within an organization between the “in” was offered and the time of execution.

Moral of the story: don’t believe you’ve got an “in” until you’ve got a CJO in writing. You can start more seriously debating about leaving your current job after you’ve got options.
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Honest question, what’s wrong with using a referral? Especially a referral from someone who helped Connie get off the ground.
Absolutely nothing, but that isn’t what you’re doing. You came on a public forum, said I make X a year, have X in the bank, and am best buds with Celebrity X. Clearly I am overqualified for this position.

What do you think is going to happen if you walk into training or the interview with that stance?
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Absolutely nothing, but that isn’t what you’re doing. You came on a public forum, said I make X a year, have X in the bank, and am best buds with Celebrity X. Clearly I am overqualified for this position.

What do you think is going to happen if you walk into training or the interview with that stance?
Overqualified? You’re mightily confused. I have zero 121 time. I’m strictly from a Part 91 background. I MAY be overqualified for the regionals because of my total time, turbine PIC, etc. but for a major airline, or a cargo outfit flying 747’s, I’m most certainly not overqualified.

My current salary, or my 401k balance (which isn’t the same as money in the bank, btw) doesn’t have a damn thing to do with whether I’m overqualified. For Kalitta, or a major airline, I’m certainly not overqualified.

Oh, and Ned Wallace certainly isn’t a celebrity. Hardly...

I’m terribly sorry if I come across as thinking that overqualified. I’m most certainly not, and I’m very aware of that. I’m humbly wondering if I even have the qualifications to get a call from any of these outfits.
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