Threat of Amazon in the package delivery biz
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
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Just do a YouTube search and you’ll find a plethora of videos with FDX/UPS delivery guys (as with Amazon gig drivers, although not as many...yet) doing all kinds of dastardly deeds to someone’s packages. Being a uniform wearing W2 employee isn’t necessarily indicative of a good work ethic.
#43
All the time. I see 7 or eight different airlines from several countries operating as they should. The problems you see in CVG are caused almost exclusively by the ground staff. There is nothing wrong with the model as per the airlines. There is definitely something wrong with the ground people. I see no reason why that part of the operation couldn't be improved and then the whole thing run as efficiently as the competitors. The staff of all three are hired within a 200 mile radius so it's basically the same pool. Besides, have you listened to yhe ramp stories of your UPS and FedEx friend. It is a lot of the same. When was the last time a CVG problem was a crew or airlines fault? Not counting mechanicals because I know Brown and Purple planes break at times also. I took a delay last month for an MD-11 that pushed back and then wouldn't start.
#44
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: usually middle seat on 737
Posts: 44
Yes, the last mile is the most costly and difficult to complete, can't see that going well for Amazon overall. But it could mean opportunity for the ground games of Brown and FedEx as Postal continues to bleed red ink and reduce service (no rural door delivery, coming to your area soon!)
#46
Not only does the lack of oversight and accountability show in daily snafus, but it also results in no transparency of problems like duplicate flights and scheduling errors. Just as one example, a 767 was broken and needed to be rescued. The rescue plane and crew at CVG (from a different airline) dispatched immediately from Cincinnati to JFK to rescue the freight. Upon arrival at JFK, the crew of the empty freighter were told that the cargo they were supposed to "rescue" was still sitting in the broken plane.
In CVG.
German efficiency my butt ...
I highly doubt that Amazon, a company with zero experience at running an airline, will fare any better.
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#47
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,459
Amazon would receive a turn key operation that already delivers to every address in the USA and it's territories.
The US government keeps home delivery for every citizen and rids itself of a burden that it hasn't really wanted since the 1980's or earlier. It also eliminates overnight the pension expense in the Federal budget of all of those retired mail workers.
The US government keeps home delivery for every citizen and rids itself of a burden that it hasn't really wanted since the 1980's or earlier. It also eliminates overnight the pension expense in the Federal budget of all of those retired mail workers.
#48
Ha! I live in Germany, and let me tell you, DHL ain’t all that. Routinely have packages late, couple times lost, and more often than I would like, they’d just rather just put a sticker on our mailbox that says we can pick up our package at the “local” DHL Paketshop, 3km away.
#49
Well, you guys may be right about Amazon or DHL not being able to challenge FedEx and UPS.... today. But someone will. There is too much ecommerce. Somebody right now is working on a plan to get a big piece of that pie. It is probably somebody we have never yet heard of. This I know, history is littered with companies that were the largest in their industry but were eventually dethroned by technology or an evolving market place. (railroads, steamship lines, aircraft manufactures, stage coach lines to name a few. These companies were huge but at some point didn't evolve into the next thing. Why is it that the huge steamship companies of the late 1800's early 1900's didn't get into the airline business? It was theirs for the taking.) While I don't think Brown and Purple are going to be gone I am certain that they will be sharing the market with some other players someday.
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