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Chris99 04-19-2019 07:39 AM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2805269)
Appreciate the Info Chris. I know it would be difficult, but did anyone commute from the other islands? Such as the BI or Kauai?



And anyone know what ever happened to the rumor of Ohana being brought in house after HA bought out Island Airs cert.?
Yes, people commute from the Big Island. One guy even commutes from LA! HAL passed on taking over for Empire for whatever reason. The pilots, of course, were disappointed...

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Baja Boy 04-19-2019 01:42 PM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2805269)
Appreciate the Info Chris. I know it would be difficult, but did anyone commute from the other islands? Such as the BI or Kauai?

And anyone know what ever happened to the rumor of Ohana being brought in house after HA bought out Island Airs cert.?
I believe that HA was unable to buy the Island Air Cert.

GoodVibeRidez 04-19-2019 02:24 PM
From LA huh? That's rough. Job must not be too bad eh! Bummer for the Empire guys, thought that it would work out for them. Thank again Chris!

GoodVibeRidez 08-07-2019 10:45 PM
Anyone have any info about this "Flow through" program with HA?

Chris99 08-08-2019 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2866853)
Anyone have any info about this "Flow through" program with HA?
It's not a true flow in the technical sense (i.e., getting a Hawaiian seniority number when hired on at 'Ohana). It's more of a "preferential hiring" program that you have to apply for and may not be accepted into: "pilots interviewing for a position at ‘Ohana by Hawaiian will have the opportunity to also APPLY to Hawaiian’s Flow-Through hiring program. Candidates ACCEPTED to the program..." If you have the experience and the hours, you'd be better off foregoing the flow and applying to Hawaiian on your own (once accepted into the flow program, you can't apply to Hawaiian on your own).

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Neosporin 08-08-2019 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2866853)
Anyone have any info about this "Flow through" program with HA?
I would say it is similar to Commutair and the CPP.
Get hired at Commutair, then take the Hogan, then interview at UA while employed at Commutair, get accepted, and then keep your nose clean and flow in.

GoodVibeRidez 08-08-2019 03:47 PM
Originally Posted by Chris99 (Post 2867179)
It's not a true flow in the technical sense (i.e., getting a Hawaiian seniority number when hired on at 'Ohana). It's more of a "preferential hiring" program that you have to apply for and may not be accepted into: "pilots interviewing for a position at ‘Ohana by Hawaiian will have the opportunity to also APPLY to Hawaiian’s Flow-Through hiring program. Candidates ACCEPTED to the program..." If you have the experience and the hours, you'd be better off foregoing the flow and applying to Hawaiian on your own (once accepted into the flow program, you can't apply to Hawaiian on your own).

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Gotcha, so a way for HA to get pilots and keep them at Ohana for some time. Got some mainland 121 time, with some TPIC. Was thinking about ththe move to direct captain.

Hows the training outline look for Ohana? Pretty smooth process? Success rate? Sim locations?

Chris99 08-08-2019 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2867274)


Hows the training outline look for Ohana? Pretty smooth process? Success rate? Sim locations?
Two weeks of Indoc in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; four weeks of simulator training at Flight Safety Houston; and three to four weeks of IOE at HNL. Recently the success rate has been decent. A little over two years ago it was rumored to be dismal...

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GoodVibeRidez 08-08-2019 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Chris99 (Post 2867340)
Two weeks of Indoc in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; four weeks of simulator training at Flight Safety Houston; and three to four weeks of IOE at HNL. Recently the success rate has been decent. A little over two years ago it was rumored to be dismal...

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I appreciate all the info! You think the success rate is due to their training program? Or maybe the pilots themselves?

You currently at Ohana yourself Chris? If you are, how is it going so far for ya? Heard the ATR is an intresting aircraft. (Mixed reviews)

Chris99 08-08-2019 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by GoodVibeRidez (Post 2867346)
I appreciate all the info! You think the success rate is due to their training program? Or maybe the pilots themselves?



You currently at Ohana yourself Chris? If you are, how is it going so far for ya? Heard the ATR is an intresting aircraft. (Mixed reviews)
I left 'Ohana for Hawaiian this year. The failure rate was really bad right before they raised the pay significantly in the summer of 2017 (right before I interviewed).

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