Empire Airlines General questions
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 276
Going to Empire for the Caravan but curious about the ATR. How is the training and QOL on the 121 side? With the new purple runway program, is it a good idea to stick around at the feeders in hope of getting on with FedEx, or just leave for an LLC like Southwest, Jetblue, or Allegiant? I'm going the feeder route in hope of bypassing a regional to a larger aircraft like a B737 or A320.
#32
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 27
Daily schedule- you either work AM or PM half a day. that might slightly change once we start flying cargo, but no one knows what that schedule will look like yet.
Home every night
typically work about 18 days a month, but FOs can easily trade out of days down to 12 if you want.
Salary is listed on the website, but first year is $60K plus $12K retention bonus paid out twice a year.
There isn't much in the way of guarantee with getting to HA, but in the next year or so we will most likely be HA employees when they buy the Island Air cert. so who knows what will happen with that
#33
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 5
Yeah, Ohana is great if you want QOL over flight time.
Daily schedule- you either work AM or PM half a day. that might slightly change once we start flying cargo, but no one knows what that schedule will look like yet.
Home every night
typically work about 18 days a month, but FOs can easily trade out of days down to 12 if you want.
Salary is listed on the website, but first year is $60K plus $12K retention bonus paid out twice a year.
There isn't much in the way of guarantee with getting to HA, but in the next year or so we will most likely be HA employees when they buy the Island Air cert. so who knows what will happen with that
Daily schedule- you either work AM or PM half a day. that might slightly change once we start flying cargo, but no one knows what that schedule will look like yet.
Home every night
typically work about 18 days a month, but FOs can easily trade out of days down to 12 if you want.
Salary is listed on the website, but first year is $60K plus $12K retention bonus paid out twice a year.
There isn't much in the way of guarantee with getting to HA, but in the next year or so we will most likely be HA employees when they buy the Island Air cert. so who knows what will happen with that
Thanks again!
#34
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 27
Well, I am still new with Ohana. But honestly Im loving it. I haven't slept in a hotel since training and its great. There is always going to be some headaches with any job, but going home every night, 8 hour duty days or less usually, and a really laid back pilot group make it a breeze. sure, the price of living in HI is steep, but on a good salary its not hard. the beach is free, hikes are free, buy a surfboard and then surfing is free.
Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can answer more questions or put in a good word
Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can answer more questions or put in a good word
#35
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 4
I'm from Montana and I've been working my whole carreer to get back to the NW some where, anywhere. MSO, GEG, etc... It seems the further I progess in aviation the further from my goal I get. I'm currently at an ACMI carrier with about 5000hrs 4000 of which are multi-engine turbine, but I seem to be stuck here with no turbine PIC.
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 529
I'm from Montana and I've been working my whole carreer to get back to the NW some where, anywhere. MSO, GEG, etc... It seems the further I progess in aviation the further from my goal I get. I'm currently at an ACMI carrier with about 5000hrs 4000 of which are multi-engine turbine, but I seem to be stuck here with no turbine PIC.
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
Street captain aside, anyone know if they ever waive this upgrade requirement if you're in good standing at the company? otherwise I'm looking at a very long SIC timebuilding road (was told they will honor SIC time to meet the requirement but at a 2:1 conversion).
#37
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 11
I'm from Montana and I've been working my whole carreer to get back to the NW some where, anywhere. MSO, GEG, etc... It seems the further I progess in aviation the further from my goal I get. I'm currently at an ACMI carrier with about 5000hrs 4000 of which are multi-engine turbine, but I seem to be stuck here with no turbine PIC.
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
I'm looking for any info regarding upgrades on the ATR (I'm not concerned with building time. I know it will be slow), vacancies near Montana, schedule, QOL and anything else you guys might find helpful.
Thanks
In Montana the big domicile is Billings. But there is a possibility of getting MSO, BTM, or HLN. These go to people who want to live in these locations so movement can be really slow. Timing is everything.
If you have questions or would like to get contact information please feel free to pm me.
#38
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 27
Thing is they dont hire street captains without the requisite 1000 PIC so it's almost a catch 22 scenario.
Street captain aside, anyone know if they ever waive this upgrade requirement if you're in good standing at the company? otherwise I'm looking at a very long SIC timebuilding road (was told they will honor SIC time to meet the requirement but at a 2:1 conversion).
Street captain aside, anyone know if they ever waive this upgrade requirement if you're in good standing at the company? otherwise I'm looking at a very long SIC timebuilding road (was told they will honor SIC time to meet the requirement but at a 2:1 conversion).
mins for upgrade are- 2500TT, 1000PIC, 1000MEL, 300Turbine, 500Crew.
if your an FO looking to upgrade, you get credits of 2:1 for TT and PIC time, that you fly with company. plus you get 1 hour of credit towards PIC for every landing you perform as a crew member.
#39
Well, I am still new with Ohana. But honestly Im loving it. I haven't slept in a hotel since training and its great. There is always going to be some headaches with any job, but going home every night, 8 hour duty days or less usually, and a really laid back pilot group make it a breeze. sure, the price of living in HI is steep, but on a good salary its not hard. the beach is free, hikes are free, buy a surfboard and then surfing is free.
Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can answer more questions or put in a good word
Feel free to shoot me a PM and I can answer more questions or put in a good word
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 529
Correct, you would need 1000PIC to be street captain.
mins for upgrade are- 2500TT, 1000PIC, 1000MEL, 300Turbine, 500Crew.
if your an FO looking to upgrade, you get credits of 2:1 for TT and PIC time, that you fly with company. plus you get 1 hour of credit towards PIC for every landing you perform as a crew member.
mins for upgrade are- 2500TT, 1000PIC, 1000MEL, 300Turbine, 500Crew.
if your an FO looking to upgrade, you get credits of 2:1 for TT and PIC time, that you fly with company. plus you get 1 hour of credit towards PIC for every landing you perform as a crew member.
I.e. fly 400hrs get 200 PIC equivalent, and in those 400hrs perform say 130 landings. Therefore you'd get 330 PIC hour credits for 400hrs flight time ? This is ohana or all empire policy ?
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