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Old 03-01-2018, 07:51 PM   #11  
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First year FO at K4 makes more than a 12 year CA at Southern on 737?
Are these 737ís doing the DHL flying that no one else wanted due to the low rates?
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Are these 737ís doing the DHL flying that no one else wanted due to the low rates?
Yep that would be them.
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Old 03-07-2018, 06:10 AM   #13  
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Here is some good info if you are just looking for a stepping stone airline. Hell might as well be properly compensated and not have any chance of getting stuck on the 737 for three years or until the big boys call. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/omni-air-to-set-new-high-for-first-officer-pay-unio-446511/
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Old 04-13-2018, 06:04 PM   #14  
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10% of the southern pilots have left this year. 2 have quit without another job lined up.
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Old 04-17-2018, 01:18 PM   #15  
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Most of southern pilots are looking to leave this place. Because contract negotiations are not going anywhere, the last offer, was ridiculous, atless management doesn't care. And they continue this game for many years. If you are at the regionals stay there, upgrade and continue your career path. If you think coming here to get a 777 type rating is going to help you, go ahead. Sometimes flying a big plane doesn't help you to get a better job. It's greener in other places. Go to Omni or kalitta. They pay better than here.
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And don't forget:

Southern
1st year FO - $61/hr = $44,652/year
5th year FO - $77/hr = $56,364/year
12th year FO - $95/hr = $69,540/year

3rd year CA - $114/hr = $83,488/year
5th year CA - $122/hr = $89,304/year
12th year CA - $150/hr = $109,800/year

Monthly guarantee: 61 hours (737)



(and just for laughs

Southwest
1st year FO - $79/hr = $73,944/year
5th year FO - $155/hr = $145,080/year
12th year FO -$180/hr = $168,480/year

3rd year CA - $233/hr = $218,088/year
5th year CA - $238/hr = $222,768/year
12th year CA - $258/hr = $241,488/year

Monthly guarantee: 78 hours

And read all about the Southern work rules ... (or lack thereof ...)
Donít Forget Kalitta
First year FO $106
Third Year Captain $203
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Yes. A good comparison.

Southern
1st year FO - $61/hr = $44,652/year
Kalitta
1st year FO - $107/hr = $82,176/year

Southern
3rd year CA - $114/hr = $83,488/year
Kalitta
3rd year CA - $203/hr = $155,904/year

Really you could pick just about any airline you'd want to fly for, compare them, and the SIA pay scales would look this bad.
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Yes. A good comparison.

Southern
1st year FO - $61/hr = $44,652/year
Kalitta
1st year FO - $107/hr = $82,176/year

Southern
3rd year CA - $114/hr = $83,488/year
Kalitta
3rd year CA - $203/hr = $155,904/year

Really you could pick just about any airline you'd want to fly for, compare them, and the SIA pay scales would look this bad.
Realistic numbers for K4 first year FO is between 100 to 140k
Third year CA is north of 200k.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:32 AM   #19  
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You guys need to be emailing your union leaders and asking them what they are doing about section 744 of this bill.

Iím emailing my union rep and I donít even fly cargo. We are all in this industry together!

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2018-04-19/faa-bill-poised-reach-floor-next-week
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Not a problem at Southern, the robot would cost more than the pilots it replaces.
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