ALI G Mmmm

Really would like to go to Atlas. Should I hold off until I get a call or just go to Western global.... They both seem to have around the same schedule.

JackStraw

Western Global. Definitely. Stay far away from Atlas. Go anywhere but Atlas. Anywhere. That includes Allegiant...who is hiring by the way.

RyeMex

I'm not saying that I disagree with you, Jack. But, God. How fu**ing depressing that it got to the point where this became a valid question.

What a fu**ing sh*tshow Atlas turned itself into..

CactusCrew

There's no right/wrong answer

Boris Badenov

I'm asking myself a similar question at the moment.

AFAICT, it shakes out something like this:

Western Global:
+ Higher F/O pay
+ (much) Quicker upgrade
+ Higher employee morale
- No union
- Travel in Cattle Class
- Smaller company, less certain future

I think the real answer is hope Kalitta calls before forced to make a choice. Or possibly Omni with their new T/A.

ALI G Mmmm

Pros and Cons of Atlas vs Western Global. Currently at a regional now. Looking for something with more pay. Western global seems to pay well. But how do they treat their pilots with no union? Do they deadhead you a lot at WGA? Economy class middle seat for 14 hours a possibility? Is it true that you might sit at home on some of those 17 days on reserve? Thank you all for the reply's!

Boris Badenov

I don't work there (yet), but I did go to one of their job expos. So take this with a box of salt.

Economy middle seat for however long it takes you to get where they're sending you is a possibility. Reportedly, you build status quickly and have a good shot at upgrade, but it can and does happen. And it sounds like it's just as miserable as you'd imagine.

I didn't hear any stories of sitting at home on reserve. The general rap seemed to be plan to be out for 17 until November, then plan to be out for 20 until February. Obviously that's a moving target.

I will say that everyone I've spoken to seemed pretty happy. Obviously, guys who show up to a job expo are going to be selected for being happy, but I've corresponded with a couple of line pilots from the various forums, and it does not sound like a slave-ship experience. Nor, to be frank, does it sound like a career destination. I suppose that could change, but I wouldn't count on it. Caveat Emptor and all of that.

Clear left

Does anyone know when the next Western Global class is scheduled for?

Harrisburg

Go to Western Global. UPS will keep you employed for a long long time.

clb2vnav

Can you upgrade at your regional within a year? If so, stay and get the PIC time first.