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Old 03-08-2018, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by thesandbox View Post
on the crew bus this morning in CVG....ATI pilot to Kalitta pilot sitting across from him... "well it definitely is not as good as yours but it's good enough to keep me here" ....wow...just wow.
You should have slapped some sense into him😜
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:01 AM
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By Jon Hemmerdinger, FlightGlobal. "The US charter carrier Omni Air International may have set a new high-water mark for pilot pay, agreeing to a contract that will make its first-year first officers the highest-paid in the US industry, according to its pilots' union. That union, the Airline Professionals Association, Teamsters Local 1224 (APA), says the deal, if ratified, could have broad implications in the US airline industry, serving as a precursor to broader wage growth.

hopefully ATI pilots are intelligent enough to keep the standard rising.

A rising tide lifts all boats

Vote NO
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:19 AM
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These are the same ATI pilots that decided it was “cool” to cross a picket line. What does that tell you? Paid for and owned by JV and JH. They will do as they are told.......vote yes!
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightshuttle View Post
Today our MEC chairman said if we didnt vote this in we would be stuck for 2yrs in mediation.

Our CNC were there too. Vote it in or we are DOOMED

Oh well
They are trying to sell you Pyrite. Fools Gold.
Just say NO!
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Old 03-08-2018, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MentalMidget View Post
this is a reality now at ATI, we voted in a new MEC but the negotiating committee is a left over from the old regime.
Kind of like Trump and the deep state he is dealing with...need to clean house ....wow never ends
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:39 PM
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There’s a pretty simple solution to all of this. Vote down the TA and reopen single carrier. There is strength in numbers.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:13 PM
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ATI Guys, I've been in this industry for 37 years. Two airlines represented by ALPA and the last 26 years by Teamsters. I've been through a total of six contracts and four with ATSG management. You can say what you want about the union representing ABX, however, they know how ATSG management negotiates. They know their moves and threats even before they are made. I strongly recommend the following: At this point in our careers we need unity. There has never been a better time in my 37 year career to be compensated what we are all worth. We must put our differences aside and join together as pilots who work for the same parent company. Our union leadership on both sides must align together and support each group to obtain an ACMI industry standard contract. The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same. If we join together, we'll both end up with an industry standard or leading contract. The TA for ATI is sub-standard. It's better than what you've had, however, it can be much better if you vote NO and join together in negotiations. Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost. Remember...... ATSG is reporting record profits! Record Profits! Both airlines can do better than the current TA on the table for ATI. Again, vote NO and then work together for an industry leading contract! It's now or never!
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flgac View Post
ATI Guys, I've been in this industry for 37 years. Two airlines represented by ALPA and the last 26 years by Teamsters. I've been through a total of six contracts and four with ATSG management. You can say what you want about the union representing ABX, however, they know how ATSG management negotiates. They know their moves and threats even before they are made. I strongly recommend the following: At this point in our careers we need unity. There has never been a better time in my 37 year career to be compensated what we are all worth. We must put our differences aside and join together as pilots who work for the same parent company. Our union leadership on both sides must align together and support each group to obtain an ACMI industry standard contract. The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same. If we join together, we'll both end up with an industry standard or leading contract. The TA for ATI is sub-standard. It's better than what you've had, however, it can be much better if you vote NO and join together in negotiations. Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost. Remember...... ATSG is reporting record profits! Record Profits! Both airlines can do better than the current TA on the table for ATI. Again, vote NO and then work together for an industry leading contract! It's now or never!
You do know that you work with a bunch of Mesa pilots right? Never seen a TA that they didn't vote yes to!
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by flgac View Post
The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same.

Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost.
This. Right. Here.

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Old 03-09-2018, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by flgac View Post
ATI Guys, I've been in this industry for 37 years. Two airlines represented by ALPA and the last 26 years by Teamsters. I've been through a total of six contracts and four with ATSG management. You can say what you want about the union representing ABX, however, they know how ATSG management negotiates. They know their moves and threats even before they are made. I strongly recommend the following: At this point in our careers we need unity. There has never been a better time in my 37 year career to be compensated what we are all worth. We must put our differences aside and join together as pilots who work for the same parent company. Our union leadership on both sides must align together and support each group to obtain an ACMI industry standard contract. The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same. If we join together, we'll both end up with an industry standard or leading contract. The TA for ATI is sub-standard. It's better than what you've had, however, it can be much better if you vote NO and join together in negotiations. Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost. Remember...... ATSG is reporting record profits! Record Profits! Both airlines can do better than the current TA on the table for ATI. Again, vote NO and then work together for an industry leading contract! It's now or never!
^^^^^THIS ^^^^^^ is a rational statement.
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