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Jason605 03-02-2018 04:46 PM

ATI Numbers Leaked
 
From a source within ATI and it looks like I was right. They were offered nearly exactly what ABX turned down.

So ATI pilots, are you gonna be the whiping boys or fight for a standard? ATI offer is 60 hours and 13 periods. ABX is currently 68 hours and 12 periods. They obviously even offered ABX lower hours to get to these numbers.

Now is definitely not the time for concessions or whipsawing. Don't go for this ATI. ATSG is making money hand over fist and if ATSG gets sold they'll make even more.

Vote that garbage down. No wonder this has been held so close to the chest. Can't wait to see the retirement.

(The first pic is the ATI TA, the second is what ABX has already been offered and subsequently turned down)


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Jurassic Jet 03-02-2018 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jason605 (Post 2541578)
Can't wait to see the retirement.


Don't hold your breath! :eek:

kolt66 03-02-2018 05:07 PM

Just as bad as we thought it was going to be.

Jurassic Jet 03-02-2018 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by kolt66 (Post 2541594)
Just as bad as we thought it was going to be.

Yeah but there is a SJS carrot in it that will suck a lot of them in.

Jason605 03-02-2018 05:21 PM

What's worse is that I just heard the Omni numbers will be out soon and they blow this out of the water.

Jurassic Jet 03-02-2018 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Jason605 (Post 2541606)
What's worse is that I just heard the Omni numbers will be out soon and they blow this out of the water.

It would just be unfathomable if garbage like these numbers passes with the earnings release that came out yesterday.

Captjim 03-02-2018 07:02 PM

Well no wonder they didn't want to post the TA! :eek:

Wings1856 03-02-2018 08:00 PM

Jason I seriously doubt your sources. First of all those guys are in DC and the whole thing is very tightlipped. Maybe it is a turd. Believe me we’ll shoot it down if it is. Number one I know there’s more money on the table number two I don’t think it will go to mediation.
Sounds like Omni is gonna put out the TA next week as well. Who knows perhaps we have a “me to” clause in there. Either way this ATI pilot won’t settle for turd contract in this environment. And most of the pilots I know I feel the same way. Don’t misunderstand our relative silence. We are allowing our CNC To do their job.

l8fr82hub 03-02-2018 08:17 PM

What is the ABX definition of “current book”? Hourly x guarantee? Or is anything else included?

727CA 03-02-2018 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Wings1856 (Post 2541702)
Jason I seriously doubt your sources. First of all those guys are in DC and the whole thing is very tightlipped. Maybe it is a turd. Believe me we’ll shoot it down if it is. Number one I know there’s more money on the table number two I don’t think it will go to mediation.
Sounds like him he’s gonna put out there TA next week as well. Who knows perhaps we have a me to clause in there. Either way this ATI pilot won’t settle for turd contract in this environment And most of the pilots I know I feel the same way, we just like to keep it professional.

agreed. You guys would be surprised how many ATI pilots will vote that down. I doubt that is the real proposed pay scale but if it is they won't be getting my vote.


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