Atlas Furloughs ?
03-25-2018, 06:55 PM
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it does appear they have stopped hiring as well...
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...rter/atlas_air
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...rter/atlas_air
03-25-2018, 10:18 PM
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Who knows?
With the company's bull and the union's bull, who is to say? Maybe the company has found a way to still make money by subleasing a lot of our flying to the other carriers in the 1224 Local and ATI. You only have to look back at the past Atlas/Polar merger to see that they have done similar compared to our situation now. Subleasing mostly done back then to develop leverage by furloughing Atlas guys. It took decertifying ALPA to get any movement going. Luckily we have a shortage of pilots felt universally across all carriers. That has helped us, but subleasing might be managements plan "B" or "C" that might be saving them or giving them time.
The majority of our guys are new and don't know any history here more than what the ExCo Chairman wants to tell them. He is a good pitch man and our new guys eat up his words like candy despite what actually happened in history.
With the company's bull and the union's bull, who is to say? Maybe the company has found a way to still make money by subleasing a lot of our flying to the other carriers in the 1224 Local and ATI. You only have to look back at the past Atlas/Polar merger to see that they have done similar compared to our situation now. Subleasing mostly done back then to develop leverage by furloughing Atlas guys. It took decertifying ALPA to get any movement going. Luckily we have a shortage of pilots felt universally across all carriers. That has helped us, but subleasing might be managements plan "B" or "C" that might be saving them or giving them time.
The majority of our guys are new and don't know any history here more than what the ExCo Chairman wants to tell them. He is a good pitch man and our new guys eat up his words like candy despite what actually happened in history.
03-25-2018, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thesandbox
it does appear they have stopped hiring as well...
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...rter/atlas_air
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...rter/atlas_air
03-25-2018, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Look at the stock price. It’s down $6 in 2 days. Not good.
03-26-2018, 01:11 AM
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Truth: Atlas is NOT hiring!
I have photo evidence posted by the 1224 from WIA 2018. Atlas can’t recruit anyone anymore, even these eager young regional pilots were giving Atlas the cold shoulder. Atlas had an empty recruiting table for 3 days of the conference.
The word is on the street finally that you are better off getting your 1000 hours TPIC at your regional...and you will get better pay while doing it.
Pay: Atlas FO will make $48k 1st year, $74k 2nd year; and 5 year Captains are barely making $100k. Less in the 767. With no pay protection/line guarantee most pilots make only non guarantee.
I have photo evidence posted by the 1224 from WIA 2018. Atlas can’t recruit anyone anymore, even these eager young regional pilots were giving Atlas the cold shoulder. Atlas had an empty recruiting table for 3 days of the conference.
The word is on the street finally that you are better off getting your 1000 hours TPIC at your regional...and you will get better pay while doing it.
Pay: Atlas FO will make $48k 1st year, $74k 2nd year; and 5 year Captains are barely making $100k. Less in the 767. With no pay protection/line guarantee most pilots make only non guarantee.
03-26-2018, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
??? It closed at $58.95 You're gonna have to go back more than 2 days to find it at $65. Anyway, in case you hadn't noticed the Dow hasn't been exactly skyrocketing, so it's not like AAWW is in freefall while the rest of the world is skyrocketing.
Allegiant is hiring.
03-26-2018, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Ok then. $6 in 5 days, smart guy. 10%, or $150 million, in 5 days is bad.
Allegiant is hiring.
Allegiant is hiring.
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