How many years has it been since Atlas left ALPA and went to IBT now? What have they done in all of those years? How is that trip trade working out? And having your own local, not paying dues on profit sharing. etc, etc. Dave Bourne is making plenty, still holding a seniority slot as well as Caputo. You all have been bamboozled and then some! But you keep on paying that 2.5 %, it pays for the prime rib and king prawns. :D

Wow, the Company blatantly lies, breaks agreements, and drags us through the court system time after time again, but it's the union's fault?

Perhaps if some of you guys showed some backbone we'd have had this done by now, eh?

You don't think ALPA MEC has surf and turf on your dime? What you think the hold their meetings at Subway? A union is as strong as it membership...the question is....will the Atlas pilots be willing to park airplanes if necessary? We saw how much help ALPA was when ABX went on strike and ALPA supported ATI crossing the picket line.... jackass's...

You don’t have to look to other airlines for ALPA to show its colors. Just ask the original Polar guys about the statement that they had to sign to end their strike saying that there would be no accountability or retribution for any ALPA pilots who crossed their lines. ALPA just wants a cut out of every check that they can and wouldn’t serve a company the size of Atlas any better than IBT.

So I hear that if you work for K2, they won't let your transition over to K4, why is that, any idea?

Probably because K4 wouldn’t want to steal pilots from its sister operation, I’d imagine

Always been that way, I can only speculate an answer, which others have already done.

They don’t want to pay to train two pilots.

Just my opinion. In addition to the valid responses you received above and on another thread, going to K2 is not a good idea for getting to K4. You go to K2 and fly very little, no international time, and no wide body time. Staying at a Commuter at least raises your Total time at a nice clip. Going to a wide body carrier gives you you that experience. K2,K4 are separate companies with separate owners who share certain administrative things. I think it was set up that way in case one lost their operating certificate. Assets could be shifted over to the other..

Well, that one doesn't make much sence, because if they don't go to K4, they'll go else where, so you still have to train 2 pilots.