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Old 04-24-2018, 12:30 PM   #11  
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Just looking to fly bigger equipment again.

Well if youíre willing to...
a. Take a pay cut
b. Pay for your own lodging and transportation during training
c. Sit on reserve for a minimum of a year (crash pad recommended)
d. Sit airport (hot) reserve for 12 hours at a time
e. Be involved in a toxic work environment
f. Have uncertain job security
...then by all means come aboard. And of course, night flying and all that jazz. Just know that all the pilots hired in 2016/17 (when they started hiring again) have their stuff out and are leaving left and right. That should tell you what you need to know. Oh and our most junior Captain was hired in 1996.
Iím not salty, just telling you what to expect if you make the decision to go through with it.

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Old 04-24-2018, 01:55 PM   #12  
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Oh and our most junior Captain was hired in 1996.
Would that make it the longest upgrade time of any airline, anywhere in the US?
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:07 PM   #13  
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Ok I have an interview with ABX what do I need to know? I get it's a cargo carrier coming back again.

I worked for Evergreen.

and a defunct major.

What is schedule like?

Pay like?

Are you based in Wilmington?

What are you paying for our of pocket? Hotels,per diem

Thanks for info

ABX is probably the worst airline to work for and if you come here you will not be happy. I wouldnít even interview if I were you.



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Old 04-25-2018, 03:13 AM   #14  
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Well if youíre willing to...
a. Take a pay cut
b. Pay for your own lodging and transportation during training
c. Sit on reserve for a minimum of a year (crash pad recommended)
d. Sit airport (hot) reserve for 12 hours at a time
e. Be involved in a toxic work environment
f. Have uncertain job security
...then by all means come aboard. And of course, night flying and all that jazz. Just know that all the pilots hired in 2016/17 (when they started hiring again) have their stuff out and are leaving left and right. That should tell you what you need to know. Oh and our most junior Captain was hired in 1996.
Iím not salty, just telling you what to expect if you make the decision to go through with it.

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And this guy is putting it nicely^. This place is an absolute train wreck. The company will go out of their way and spend extra money to **** you off here and make you miserable. This is no exaggeration at all. Just one small example, a crew member had a deadhead as their last of a sequence and found a ticket directly home for 60$ but the company insisted on making him 3 leg it in a middle seat back to CVG and spent 870$. Needless to say he dropped it and went on his own.


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Old 04-25-2018, 05:09 AM   #15  
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Unfortunately you can't make this **** up. When your upper management doesn't have a clue as to how to run a company and the CEO allows substandard performance......what outcome do you expect?
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:15 AM   #16  
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Ok I have an interview with ABX what do I need to know? I get it's a cargo carrier coming back again.

I worked for Evergreen.

and a defunct major.

What is schedule like?

Pay like?

Are you based in Wilmington?

What are you paying for our of pocket? Hotels,per diem

Thanks for info


ABX is an ACMI carrier that happens to be possibly the only shrinking airline in the US. We are still in time out because of the strike in 2016 - all airplanes painted for Amazon go directly to ATI along with additional flying. We are threatened endlessly to take concessions on our already concessionary contract.

Schedule: 17 days a month, so 13 or 14 off depending on the month. Until you are junior manned...except for vacation, they can and will junior man you on any day. They donít care about your childís wedding or any other family event. So you have to call off fatigued, or if youíre home you never ever answer your phone.

Pay: About $52/hour first year, and it nearly doubles second year. 68 hour guarantee. Donít expect to break guarantee except for junior man pay.

Base: CVG

Paid Out of Pocket: hotel while in training, and let me tell you...thereís not much in the bustling metropolis of Wilmington, OH.

Hotels/Per Diem: Hotels are generally good. Domestic per diem is $52/day and international (not including Canada and Mexico) is $79.75/day.

We are in very contentious contract negotiations with no end in sight. The company has made no movement at all since our current president came on property a little over a year ago. Do what you want, but this place is a mess right now.

Hope this helps.
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Old 04-25-2018, 06:30 AM   #17  
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Abx or ATI anyone who want want to work for either of these must not be very smart. Management hates pilots and has no idea how to treat employees!
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Soapy or Joe.....you guys getting any of this?
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:22 AM   #19  
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Soapy or Joe.....you guys getting any of this?
I'd assume they could care less and are laughing. What's funny though is that regionals are paying huge retention and signing bonus raising pay and qol, the majors gave up the labor fight years ago and just paid up. ACMI seems to not look at any data on how many thousands of much better jobs are out there.

What's the long term plan to attract and retain? My guess is they don't have on other than Jr man, and try to run from the industry truth as long as possible.

Pilots these days have a ton of options and word spreads fast of what places take care of their pilots.

Management through fear, intimidation, and an outright disrespect for the union is a recipe for failure. They haven't even felt the heat yet of the majors hiring and 40% have quit, classes get pushed and unfilled.
The business can't succeed without pilots. I suspect the investment community will catch wind of the unfilled classes.
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Old 04-25-2018, 07:50 AM   #20  
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I think they already have. Have you noticed the falling stock prices? There are big problems just under the surface.
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