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Old 05-01-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd View Post
Second thought there probably is no bonus but they're at the job fair and maybe will try to mislead people into thinking there might be! Real airlines don't have offer 1 time bonuses to attract pilots. They just give them a good contract with industry pay, retirement and good quality of life. ACMI can't offer that!
This butthurt is starting to get old. Aren't you an ACMI pilot? If ACMI can't offer you what you want, then why aren't you at a legacy by now?

From where I'm sitting ACMI (ATI included) spanks every regional out there in the total compensation package. Sure it might not be an ultimate destination, but it's not a bad rung to grab on the way up. Frankly I don't know why ATI would need to even offer a signing bonus since their 1st year pay is significantly above ACMI competitors like Atlas.

A few of you on here seem to be super bitter that you aren't getting paid UPS/Fedex/Delta rates, and that ATI settled for something less even though you don't work there. So why aren't you at UPS or another legacy that pays you what you are worth? Vote with your ass and leave if you are that miserable.
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
This butthurt is starting to get old. Aren't you an ACMI pilot? If ACMI can't offer you what you want, then why aren't you at a legacy by now?

From where I'm sitting ACMI (ATI included) spanks every regional out there in the total compensation package. Sure it might not be an ultimate destination, but it's not a bad rung to grab on the way up. Frankly I don't know why ATI would need to even offer a signing bonus since their 1st year pay is significantly above ACMI competitors like Atlas.

A few of you on here seem to be super bitter that you aren't getting paid UPS/Fedex/Delta rates, and that ATI settled for something less even though you don't work there. So why aren't you at UPS or another legacy that pays you what you are worth? Vote with your ass and leave if you are that miserable.

^^^^^^. What he said.

I want to read these threads to actual gain knowledge about each company and what is the latest. All I see is a bunch of bitter pilots. It is not our fault you can’t get hired on by Fedex or a Legacy because you didn’t go to college, failed checkrides or have a DUI on your record. Try and better your resume instead of spending everyday on a blog getting your jollies from bashing other pilots.
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:49 PM
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^^^^^^doesn’t get it^^^^^^


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Old 05-01-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayst View Post
^^^^^^. What he said.

I want to read these threads to actual gain knowledge about each company and what is the latest. All I see is a bunch of bitter pilots. It is not our fault you can’t get hired on by Fedex or a Legacy because you didn’t go to college, failed checkrides or have a DUI on your record. Try and better your resume instead of spending everyday on a blog getting your jollies from bashing other pilots.
110%. I've got 11 months till my bachelors degree. I just picked up Check Airman, and work harder than anyone I know. I'm enjoying my career, and looking to advance as well. I hate these negative asshats. If you hate your industry so much, leave and take your misery/venom somewhere else. There's a bunch of us young pups who can do your job just as well as you, but with much better attitudes just waiting to replace you.

Post all the "scab airline" BS you want, I'm unimpressed. I'm sure I speak for a lot of lurkers here.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
110%. I've got 11 months till my bachelors degree. I just picked up Check Airman, and work harder than anyone I know. I'm enjoying my career, and looking to advance as well. I hate these negative asshats. If you hate your industry so much, leave and take your misery/venom somewhere else. There's a bunch of us young pups who can do your job just as well as you, but with much better attitudes just waiting to replace you.

Post all the "scab airline" BS you want, I'm unimpressed. I'm sure I speak for a lot of lurkers here.
There's a lot of former military evaluator pilots with stellar records and masters degrees running around the ACMI ranks as well. But thanks for advocating turning ACMI into a stepping stone in your career. These management teams surely do appreciate you.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:27 PM
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There's a lot of former military evaluator pilots with stellar records and masters degrees running around the ACMI ranks as well. But thanks for advocating turning ACMI into a stepping stone in your career. These management teams surely do appreciate you.
I'll assume that "stepping stone" isn't a dirty word in this context. Or maybe it is. APC is hard to read in that regard. I'm not as lofty as a military evaluator pilot, but I can tell you stories about being on the ground calling in you guys to save our ass. I spent a few harrowing years kicking doors as an infantryman at the behest of our government, and now the same motivation that guided me to kick in a possibly boobytrapped door with a haj holding a PRK behind it summons me to attack this new career.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't give two squarts of **** if you were a military evaluator pilot, at least if that's what still makes you feel superior to everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it. I tried AROTC, and my eyes didn't let me get a flight slot. Life is what it is. You aren't superior for a second.

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Old 05-01-2018, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
I'll assume that "stepping stone" isn't a dirty word in this context. Or maybe it is. APC is hard to read in that regard. I'm not as lofty as a military evaluator pilot, but I can tell you stories about being on the ground calling in you guys to save our ass. I spent a few harrowing years kicking doors as an infantryman at the behest of our government, and now the same motivation that guided me to kick in a possibly boobytrapped door with a haj holding a PRK behind it summons me to attack this new career.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't give two squarts of **** if you were a military evaluator pilot, at least if that's what still makes you feel superior to everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it. I tried AROTC, and my eyes didn't let me get a flight slot. Life is what it is. You aren't superior for a second.

I earned my rank.
I think you kinda missed my point there fella.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:45 PM
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But thanks for advocating turning ACMI into a stepping stone in your career. These management teams surely do appreciate you.
Sorry if I took this wrong. Seemed like my assertation that ACMI might be a stepping stone in my career rankled your feathers. If that's not the case then disregard. I actually had great admiration for military aviators. But thinking they were superior in any regard? Never.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
Sorry if I took this wrong. Seemed like my assertation that ACMI might be a stepping stone in my career rankled your feathers. If that's not the case then disregard. I actually had great admiration for military aviators. But thinking they were superior in any regard? Never.
The insinuation above was that ACMI pilots could not get a real job because of no degree, failed check rides, DUI, etc and therefore justifying ACMI as a lower tier career option. I used the military experience example to counter this ridiculous mindset. Forget I mentioned it. I'll leave you to your job search.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger View Post
I'll assume that "stepping stone" isn't a dirty word in this context. Or maybe it is. APC is hard to read in that regard. I'm not as lofty as a military evaluator pilot, but I can tell you stories about being on the ground calling in you guys to save our ass. I spent a few harrowing years kicking doors as an infantryman at the behest of our government, and now the same motivation that guided me to kick in a possibly boobytrapped door with a haj holding a PRK behind it summons me to attack this new career.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't give two squarts of **** if you were a military evaluator pilot, at least if that's what still makes you feel superior to everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it. I tried AROTC, and my eyes didn't let me get a flight slot. Life is what it is. You aren't superior for a second.

I earned my rank.
This has got to be a joke... Peole don’t like ATI because their union leadership is actively undermining the entire ACMI space to get a few more planes and their pilots are a bunch of pushover losers who won’t stand up for themselves. It’s got nothing to do with ‘not being fedex’, it’s what they are doing to an otherwise ok industry - I am not an ACMI hater, I just recognize that ATI’s union is essentially run by management and the pilot group refuses to do anything about it (and in fact encourages it) and it’s bad for everyone... competitors and otherwise. Don’t go to ATI dude- go anywhere else where you can have the respect of your peers and respect for yourself.
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