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AUS_ATC 04-06-2007 11:03 AM

Say goodbye to Simultaneous 18L/C and 27 operations at MEM
 
I found the following FAA document posted on The Main Bang. It appears that MEM has been operating with an illegal operation/procedure for many years. I can't wait to see how the FAA handles this situation. Any predictions?

MEM_ATC

TonyC 04-06-2007 11:17 AM

I saw that posted on another forum and asked this question:

How does that affect simultaneous 18L, 18R, and 27 operations? We don't normally use 18L, 18C, and 27.

I've often wondered how we might handle a rejected landing or go-around from Rwy 27 when an airplane was on short final to 18L.




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A300_Driver 04-06-2007 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 144904)
I saw that posted on another forum and asked this question:

How does that affect simultaneous 18L, 18R, and 27 operations? We don't normally use 18L, 18C, and 27.




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The feeder guys use 27 when we're landing on the 18's...this will make it even worse landing to the south!

JetJocF14 04-06-2007 02:07 PM

Oh don't worry GOC will add on plenty of extra gas. So now in an MD-11 or DC-10 you can have a FAT of 19K instead of 18K with NQA still there to help in your hour of need.............:eek:

TonyC 04-06-2007 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by JetJocF14 (Post 144998)

Oh don't worry GOC will add on plenty of extra gas. So now in an MD-11 or DC-10 you can have a FAT of 19K instead of 18K with NQA still there to help in your hour of need.............:eek:



Not this kid. :D




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Billy32 04-06-2007 02:31 PM


The feeder guys use 27 when we're landing on the 18's...this will make it even worse landing to the south
No kidding. I hate having to slow to 170 and fall in line behind you heavy drivers. This is going to make my night considerably longer.

flyguy37 04-06-2007 03:40 PM

Atr Can Do 250 To 3 Mile Final While You Guys Are At Ref 15 Miles Out.

1stCivDiv 04-06-2007 03:58 PM

No props
 
That may be true but we can only go as fast as they let us, and only being able to slow 10 knots per mile unless you throw the boards out doesn't help either. I am sure the MD's and Airbus are worse. Having flat prop blades out there to slow you down are obviously more effective. When you cram 100+ flights into Mempho in a two hour period kinda tends to jam stuff up. Maybe the ATR is the reason we are having to slow from .86 to 250 100 miles out of MEM... :p

T-tail 04-07-2007 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 145055)
Atr Can Do 250 To 3 Mile Final While You Guys Are At Ref 15 Miles Out.

Sometimes that is almost true. When we're assigned 170 knots to the marker and Vref=160!

You burn a lot of dead dinosaurs when the conga line stretches out 30 miles.:eek:

R1200RT 04-07-2007 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy37 (Post 145055)
Atr Can Do 250 To 3 Mile Final While You Guys Are At Ref 15 Miles Out.

Not sure we'd make but "We Can Do 360" to a 3 mile final. Props are great for slowing down but suck for speed or altitude. The EMB120 was the same way and ate the ATR for lunch.

As they say Props are for boats. :eek:


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