KyberCrystal

DHL announced this morning they ordered a bunch of 777s from Boeing. As far as I know, DHL is a network of airlines, some they own, some they contract with. So my question is what certificate are these 777s going to end up on.

Would anyone like to speculate?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-dhl-777-deal/

RandomPerson

Probably AeroLogic since DHL is German owned and Aerologic is their German 777 operator.

It could be Southern too since they're probably the cheapest 777 operator with the lowest paid 777 pilots on planet earth. Maybe that's why Southern Pilots' compensation was recently "brought up" to the Atlas contract. They're still probably the lowest paid 777 pilots on planet earth though, no different than Atlas for the 76/74. It just depends on whether DHL values reliability or cost more.

They could have one of their Asian carriers like Air Hong Kong operate them too I guess, but that involve them having to start a 777 program.

It feels like I'm on the regional forum arguing over who's gonna get the next big NINE HONDO order.

Formerbuspilot

$$ Cost $$

RyeMex

This is a rumor that needs to be squashed. I was told from a new hire in today’s new class at Atlas that management had offered him a 777 class date and told him that Southern now had the Atlas contract.

This is a complete and utter boldfaced lie. There has not even been an AIP reached. Southern is still on the Southern contract. There is no guarantee that the parity that the company claims to have offered is even real parity. It is still being scrutinized by the lawyers. Even if this offer does turn out to be what management says it is (which is doubtful from what I’ve heard of it so far), it still has to go through 4 votes before it would become a real deal.

RandomPerson

"We can report that we believe we have reached an agreement in principal with the company on an LOA that would bring our counterparts at Southern to parity with Atlas Air pilots".

Tumbl3weed

It just depends on whether DHL values reliability or cost more.[/QUOTE]

I think we all know the answer to that
DHL - Day and a Half Late

RyeMex

"We believe that we have" and "We have" are two different statements.
Also, I have been told that with every week that goes by, our lawyers are finding more "easter eggs" in the company's proposal that makes it look less and less like a true offer of parity.

ROBsINtheHOOD

With this purchase , DHL is amending it`s business plan away from wet leased , expensive 747F type operations to a more owned and in house operation. Operators like Kalitta , Polar and Southern have just seen their negotiating leverage reduce drastically.

Diesel8

Not Even Close.

1. The LOA has not even been released to the crews for their review.

2. The dog & pony sales show has not even started.

3. There is probably more negative aspects to the parity agreement then there would be positive - smoke and mirrors

4. It has to be voted on

5. Most SAI crewmembers with half a brain know that this parity offer is a veiled screw job, and is probably not even anywhere near "parity"

6. After years of not giving parity to SAI pilots, what is the sudden impetus to do so now unless it is of some large benefit to Atlas management, and no we are not talking about satiated pilots.

7. Atlas management has NEVER done anything that would benefit their employees unless it was indulging in delighting masochists.

Atlas keeps bantering about the date 2 September. Why is that? Is it something that is required by some large company stakeholder? What gives?

No Land 3

I'm pretty sure we could take all of our DHL airplanes and use them with other customers immediately at K4. How a brand new 777 with an expensive lease is cheaper to operate than a 747 that's already been paid off beats me...