New ABX CBA?
07-20-2018, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
I wish I was....but having talked to our negotiating committee members about the mediators power on many occasions.....they are powerless
if they want to be
07-21-2018, 04:49 AM
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Why wouldn't company want to drag it out? ABX pilots are flying for cheap. By the time this amends ATI might be into year 2 of their contact . Even if they have to go up x% - they'll have saved that already by having a few years past amendable date. Wasn't that in 2014? That's going to be 4 years under old rates.
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
07-21-2018, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dynap09
Why wouldn't company want to drag it out? ABX pilots are flying for cheap. By the time this amends ATI might be into year 2 of their contact . Even if they have to go up x% - they'll have saved that already by having a few years past amendable date. Wasn't that in 2014? That's going to be 4 years under old rates.
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
07-21-2018, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dynap09
Why wouldn't company want to drag it out? ABX pilots are flying for cheap. By the time this amends ATI might be into year 2 of their contact . Even if they have to go up x% - they'll have saved that already by having a few years past amendable date. Wasn't that in 2014? That's going to be 4 years under old rates.
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
But def going to to have trouble filling classes. Year 1 FO pay something like $5x / hour? To fly a 767? With a not that amazing guarantee? UPS is worse, but their year 2 FO's probably make more than year 10 ABX guys and other contract factors there are better.
NMB should release...
07-26-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed
to my knowledge they have not filled a proffer - cant get released if you don't ask
07-26-2018, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Keepcalm
No matter what management says or does, a portion of the crews are manning up like proper teamsters to keep the on time performance down to a level eliminating Management's bonus and putting flying contact at risk. Funny thing is that management thinks threatening us will change this. Laughable. We need to be out of a job.... The current environment will insight good companies to pick up all of us. Crush this junk company as fast as possible!!!!
You're an idiot.
07-27-2018, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
I wish I was....but having talked to our negotiating committee members about the mediators power on many occasions.....they are powerless
07-28-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed
my point is they are quite powerful
if they want to be
if they want to be
Will the “A Team” company negotiators finally come to the table ready to participate productively for a change?
No way. It’s impossible, because they are part of
a League of Morons who have peaked professionally and have no respect or appreciation for any of us.
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