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2lowflaps 07-18-2018 04:46 PM

New ABX CBA?
 
Who thinks ABX will have a new CBA by the end of August of THIS year?

Jurassic Jet 07-18-2018 05:49 PM

If they don’t, 4th quarter will be a bigger disaster than 2016.

Industry Strnd 07-18-2018 06:08 PM

Why would they? The last ATSG earnings call they admitted bargaining in bad faith and stated "not till next year" I wonder if Amazon Prime Air "AMZN" knows that and DHL?

They also said they gave plenty of resumes? Then why can't they fill a class?

Jurassic Jet 07-18-2018 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Industry Strnd (Post 2637799)
The last ATSG earnings call they admitted bargaining in bad faith and stated "not till next year" I wonder if Amazon Prime Air "AMZN" knows that and DHL

Wonder what the NMB would think if they found out the company had a target timeframe in mind and had been wasting everyone’s time delaying?

tiredofjrm 07-19-2018 02:28 PM

Exactly. They delayed it. Not us. They need to pay full retro. That means everyone that left gets paid as well. If we don’t punish this behavior then they’ll keep doing it.
If I as a manager can save the company 30% in payroll by dragging **** out, why wouldn’t I?

2lowflaps 07-19-2018 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet (Post 2637808)
Wonder what the NMB would think if they found out the company had a target timeframe in mind and had been wasting everyone’s time delaying?

The NMB has been made aware of this.

Jurassic Jet 07-19-2018 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by 2lowflaps (Post 2638629)
The NMB has been made aware of this.

Excellent. I would think the company better show up with something substantial then or risk the ire of the mediator.

Getting released under a Republican President is a long shot at best in my opinion, but Trump on the other hand is not very conventional.

Someone remind me....Trump/Bezos/AMZN are good friends right?

nitefr8dog 07-20-2018 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet (Post 2638667)
Excellent. I would think the company better show up with something substantial then or risk the ire of the mediator.

Getting released under a Republican President is a long shot at best in my opinion, but Trump on the other hand is not very conventional.

Someone remind me....Trump/Bezos/AMZN are good friends right?

" the ire of the mediator" that is funny. They have no power at all except to say stop doing what you are doing or not doing.....until the next meeting where the company says .....you where serious about that? The NMB is a toothless dog. They only show up and monitor the company as the they say over and over ....we did not know when you said bring something to the table next time you really wanted us to work on this.

Lockheed 07-20-2018 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2639040)
" the ire of the mediator" that is funny. They have no power at all except to say stop doing what you are doing or not doing.....until the next meeting where the company says .....you where serious about that? The NMB is a toothless dog. They only show up and monitor the company as the they say over and over ....we did not know when you said bring something to the table next time you really wanted us to work on this.

You are wrong about the power of the mediator
they are the representative of the NMB in negotiations
If you can get your mediator to recomend to the NMB that a Proffer of Arbitration be accepted by the board - the carrier will likely be released

nitefr8dog 07-20-2018 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2639207)
You are wrong about the power of the mediator
they are the representative of the NMB in negotiations
If you can get your mediator to recomend to the NMB that a Proffer of Arbitration be accepted by the board - the carrier will likely be released

I wish I was....but having talked to our negotiating committee members about the mediators power on many occasions.....they are powerless


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