FR8TRSH

I hope the Southern pilots can see through this. Right now the company is desperate, why else make this offer? Hold the line and we can all have a real CBA inside of a year.

jetlagging

3 pages of comments now and still nobody mentioned the gorilla in the room which is this... If Atlas can’t retain or recruit pilots at 100% of their CBA why would any Southern Air pilot vote yes on a TA for a mere 75 or 80% cash value of the current At-Less CBA?

Birdsmash

How do you figure 75-80% of the Atlas CBA?

atpcliff

The Southern TA is appox 100% of the Atlas TA. Southern won't be able to retain or recruit pilots with this LOA, just like Atlas isn't able to with their CBA.

WhipWhitaker

Bingo.

Filler.

WingOffLight

It will pass...

No one thought ATI would vote yes and they did.

More pilots are taking money now than waiting for later.

Birdsmash

The Southern pilots are not voting on whether to accept a new CBA. We are voting on whether we want immediate relief from our horrible pay, work rules, etc while Atlas management drags on the negotiations for a new JCBA (Atlas/Southern pilots). The JCBA is the goal for both pilot groups.

We could say no but then how much longer do we suffer until a JCBA goes into effect? 1 year? 2 years?

jetlagging

So, Atlas, who has done nothing but lie and cheat at every chance they can, are going to suddenly honor their word?

Ok if you believe that, good luck. I agree with the other comment. They are desperate and too stupid to realize the horse has already left the barn.

nitefr8dog

Who didn't think ATI would vote yes is a better question?

maxjet

[QUOTE=RyeMex;2640265]All due respect, maxjet, but you don't know what you're talking about.
The atlas crewmembers have been fighting since day 1 to bring our brothers and sisters at Southern up to the complete and total current Atlas CBA (as outdated as it is). It is management that has refused to do the right thing and has instead insisted that the folks at Southern be treated as second class employees.

Honestly, this seems to me to be exactly the opposite of why K4 was upset. If I recall correctly, you guys were mad because you didn't get to vote as soon as you wanted to (which, one can understand). Now the folks at Southern have an opportunity to exercise their vote on whether or not they think this LOA is in their best interest, and yet this is also somehow 1224's fault?

It is entirely up to the Southern crew force now whether or not they want to ratify this LOA, and the Atlas crew force supports whatever decision they may make.

Go look for excuses to be mad at DW somewhere else.[/QUOTE

After rereading the agreement I see that you have valid points, and that I am wrong. I had errored in my interpretation that this was a done deal and not going to be voted on. I have friends at Atlas and Southern and wish you all the best.