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Old 04-08-2019, 12:53 PM   #1381  
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Chief Pilot announced the loss of 4 NCA 747-400s to Atlas. They are still looking for 4 replacements. DHL has the first 4 777s in the que and an announcement as to who was awarded should be out this week. 767 training has been slowed below optimum due to a lack of available sim time.

Class size for the 747-400 has been reduced to a much more manageable 8 every 3 weeks and should continue for a while longer. If more aircraft are found (awarded) expect training to increase.

The short answer is that nobody really knows as there are too many things outside of the Companies control right now. It would be completely realistic to think upgrades will continue to go below 2 years, to upgrades going to 5-7-10 years. Please dont make your decision to work at K4 based on upgrade. When I started in 2011 upgrade on the Classic was 1 year. We furloughed 5 months later.
When they told me that (2 year upgrade), I told myself 5 years if things go well.
Ive seen cargo before. When things go south they get ugly very quickly for cargo.
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Old 04-08-2019, 01:03 PM   #1382  
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How many were furloughed that time?
That time I believe it was 6-8. There was an earlier furlough in 2008-09 that was much larger. However, nearly half of the FO list had a TBD (To Be Determined) furlough date next to their names for the next 12-14 months. And over the course of the next 18 months almost all of the Flight Engineers lost their jobs. For those of us in the lower half of the FO list or the bottom 1/4 of the captains list it was a very unsettling time. Remember the airline was much smaller then so as a percentage of the pilots there were a lot of us in jeopardy. Fortunately the economy improved, fuel prices decreased and Connie made some savvy moves and things turned around. Just like investments, past performance is no guaranty of future loss or gains.
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Old 04-12-2019, 02:49 PM   #1383  
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Chief Pilot announced the loss of 4 NCA 747-400s to Atlas. They are still looking for 4 replacements. DHL has the first 4 777s in the que and an announcement as to who was awarded should be out this week. 767 training has been slowed below optimum due to a lack of available sim time.
Do you know if the DHL award was announced?
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:41 PM   #1384  
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The irony of DHL being about to " award " brand new 777F's to the likes of Atlas , Polar , Southern and Kalitta while they and 1224 protest and plan strike action underlines the leverage that would seem to exist between DHL and any possible CMI operator. It wouldn't be the first time that the lowest and likeliest bid would not succeed. Put yourself in their shoes. Who deserves them ?
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Old 04-12-2019, 07:28 PM   #1385  
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The irony of DHL being about to " award " brand new 777F's to the likes of Atlas , Polar , Southern and Kalitta while they and 1224 protest and plan strike action underlines the leverage that would seem to exist between DHL and any possible CMI operator. It wouldn't be the first time that the lowest and likeliest bid would not succeed. Put yourself in their shoes. Who deserves them ?
By they and 1224 do you mean DHL and 1224 or the carriers and 1224.

I only ask because Kalitta is not part of 1224 and what would we have to protest against right now?
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Old 04-13-2019, 01:57 AM   #1386  
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By “ they and 1224” do you mean DHL and 1224 or the carriers and 1224.

I only ask because Kalitta is not part of 1224 and what would we have to protest against right now?
I meant those carriers and 1224. I'm aware K4 is not represented by the Teamsters.

K4 could end up being the big winner here.
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Old 04-13-2019, 05:20 AM   #1387  
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The irony of DHL being about to " award " brand new 777F's to the likes of Atlas , Polar , Southern and Kalitta while they and 1224 protest and plan strike action underlines the leverage that would seem to exist between DHL and any possible CMI operator. It wouldn't be the first time that the lowest and likeliest bid would not succeed. Put yourself in their shoes. Who deserves them ?

Wait... We at K4 are protesting and planning strike action? Damn, you go home for 2 weeks and the whole place goes to hell and a hand basket!
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Old 04-13-2019, 06:49 AM   #1388  
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Wait... We at K4 are protesting and planning strike action? Damn, you go home for 2 weeks and the whole place goes to hell and a hand basket!
Dude did you not get the memo? We are all meeting in YIP next week to picket for more Connie Meals.
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Wait... We at K4 are protesting and planning strike action? Damn, you go home for 2 weeks and the whole place goes to hell and a hand basket!
Everything comes around....especially when you are buying aircraft and expanding for DHL needs.
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Old 04-13-2019, 03:06 PM   #1390  
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The irony of DHL being about to " award " brand new 777F's to the likes of Atlas , Polar , Southern and Kalitta while they and 1224 protest and plan strike action underlines the leverage that would seem to exist between DHL and any possible CMI operator. It wouldn't be the first time that the lowest and likeliest bid would not succeed. Put yourself in their shoes. Who deserves them ?
ABX. Theyre DHL Merika and their CEO and bar of soap have run them into the ground.
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