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05-19-2019, 01:01 PM
#1581
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler
Why is someone not fighting this? Contractually I don't believe this is allowed. On the 74 we get told a layover day is just that and they won't give you a status (IE 4 hours pay for an R day) as it's a layover day.
05-19-2019, 06:54 PM
#1583
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler
That I know but they should be built in RSV day's not have layover days changed. Do the others (Atlas, ATI etc) have guy's sitting at CVG on R1??
05-19-2019, 09:03 PM
#1584
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by jhugz
Management rights, contractually we have nothing preventing them from turning a layover day into a R1 or R2.
2 parts of the contract right here in which there should be waves to prevent this:
“Layover” may be designated on the Bid Lines in which no duty is scheduled and the Crewmember has no obligation to stand by for an assignment. A Layover Day may also include a Crewmember’s legal rest away from a Crewmember’s Base.
The Crewmember will receive a 4 hour credit towards his Bid Line guarantee or the actual hours flown, whichever is greater, only if Crew Scheduling actually assigns him a trip or reserve status (R3) or reserve status (R2) at the time of contact; otherwise he will remain in Layover Day status. Note which reserve status are mentioned.
05-19-2019, 10:08 PM
#1585
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by Colt45
Just know that the 747 and 767 operations are night and day. 747= happpy times, drinking beer in HKG. 767 = work, work, and a couple beers on 1/7 in Ohio.
05-20-2019, 04:23 AM
#1586
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by jhugz
lol...the 76 is what you make of it...we have plenty of fun on the road
05-20-2019, 07:28 AM
#1587
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 267
Originally Posted by Colt45
Well the schedule as of late has kinda prevented that. You can’t even have a damn beer with dinner. Scheduling always has you on a damn R Status.
05-20-2019, 07:53 AM
#1588
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Originally Posted by WmuGrad07
$440 on year one pay not to drink a beer for a day while at work on one of the 16 days a month while spending 14 days at home drinking as many beers with the $440 you earned while not drinking beer isn't bad. It only gets better when you're a captain.
05-20-2019, 08:48 AM
#1589
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 510
Originally Posted by Colt45
There’s much more transparency with scheduling and way better work rules at these places. Unfortunately, I don’t think things will improve overnight. Scheduling is just operating under our contract. Just know that the 747 and 767 operations are night and day. 747= happpy times, drinking beer in HKG. 767 = work, work, and a couple beers on 1/7 in Ohio.
05-20-2019, 10:08 AM
#1590
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Licking the window
Posts: 461
Originally Posted by sky jet
Not sure who you are talking to but in the current life I, operate, deadhead halfway around the planet, operate and then deadhead back to where I left to do it again. If you are not senior enough for DHL the recent scheduling on the 74 isn't all that much fun either.
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