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Old 09-10-2019, 10:44 AM   #1991  
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When you're home for two weeks at a time you can completely tune out the work part of your life and just enjoy being home. No lingering worries about commuting back in 2 days then back home again 3 days after that (if you're lucky). Its an adjustment but it works well in my house, especially if your wife has a flexible schedule, then it works really well.
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I sure would like to be part of this pilot group and fly for Kalitta but I have a wife and a dog that still loves me. How do you guys manage this? Seems like six- seven days is about the limit for normal ops around my ranch?
You have to also figure in where you will live as well. If youíre looking at commuting with a regular airline figure in the amount of time you will be gone commuting, especially until you have seniority to hold a line. Sitting reserve as a junior pilot donít be surprised to be gone far more than 16 days if youíre commuting.
Live in base? Different equation.
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I was on the fence about the 16 day trips. While I havenít been here very long, my wife and two young daughters love it. Sure, by day 10-12, itís time to GTFOH, but as was previously mentioned, the 2 weeks off is amazing.

Honestly, the 16 days is pretty easy for me. I work. Eat. Sleep. See a new country. The time flies (ha) for me, but for the spouse at home with kids in sports, she stays busy. It takes a strong and dedicated spouse to handle that.

I came from a regional where I commuted for 14+ years. 4 on 2 off. 4 on 3 off. Commute home, wash clothes, re-pack, check hourly to see if a more commutable trip popped up in company open time, commute back to work. Rinse. Wash. Repeat. No-friggin thanks.

I only have to say bye once a month, pack once a month, etc.

When I was reading through hundreds of threads before making the decision to come to K4, I kept reading posts that said what a ďhidden gemĒ it is here. Iím starting to understand that!
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I was on the fence about the 16 day trips. While I havenít been here very long, my wife and two young daughters love it. Sure, by day 10-12, itís time to GTFOH, but as was previously mentioned, the 2 weeks off is amazing.

Honestly, the 16 days is pretty easy for me. I work. Eat. Sleep. See a new country. The time flies (ha) for me, but for the spouse at home with kids in sports, she stays busy. It takes a strong and dedicated spouse to handle that.

I came from a regional where I commuted for 14+ years. 4 on 2 off. 4 on 3 off. Commute home, wash clothes, re-pack, check hourly to see if a more commutable trip popped up in company open time, commute back to work. Rinse. Wash. Repeat. No-friggin thanks.

I only have to say bye once a month, pack once a month, etc.

When I was reading through hundreds of threads before making the decision to come to K4, I kept reading posts that said what a ďhidden gemĒ it is here. Iím starting to understand that!

All very true and realistic - you do need an independent wife for this life

btw it was fun working with you last week
when the limo driver dropped me off at the terminal he said
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:52 PM   #1995  
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Safety is an issue here?

So what are you insinuating?

We have fully and highly experienced international 747 Captains that could have taken over the 777 fleet no problem???

Safety is an issue here?

Funny I didnt see any street Captains hired into the 767????

Clarification please...

And Yes it's in the CBA...
What street Captains? Street Captains are permanent. These guys are good for 276 or so days, then over to FO. Perhaps the company didnít like the way things started out in the 767. Trying something new? Perhaps it us a request by DHL. Who really give a crap besides a few uninformed pilots. Bottom line it is allowed by contract so either live with it or change it in the next contract.
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What street Captains? Street Captains are permanent. These guys are good for 276 or so days, then over to FO. Perhaps the company didnít like the way things started out in the 767. Trying something new? Perhaps it us a request by DHL. Who really give a crap besides a few uninformed pilots. Bottom line it is allowed by contract so either live with it or change it in the next contract.
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All very true and realistic - you do need an independent wife for this life

btw it was fun working with you last week
when the limo driver dropped me off at the terminal he said
"I now have a Phd in barbecue"
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Good working with you as well. Thatís pretty funny. Iím sure he knows all about stick burners and pellet smokers!
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And he not wrong about it
Geez, here I am about to start a frenzy. Get a call telling me to pipe down. Whatever...

You are arguing about 4 pilots. 4! Really??? We wanted some expertise to help blend a truly electronic airplane into our fleet. Not meaning to dis any of the very well qualified pilots that live here at K4.

Not for nuthiní, but which one of you stepped up to help get the 777 on the certificate? That is an insane effort. We decided that getting a little help was worth exercising the contractually allowed 270 days.

Considering how junior the last bid went, I am not seeing too much whining room. If you wanted the seat, you would have bid it. If not, stop *****ing...

Skyguy out...
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Geez, here I am about to start a frenzy. Get a call telling me to pipe down. Whatever...

You are arguing about 4 pilots. 4! Really??? We wanted some expertise to help blend a truly electronic airplane into our fleet. Not meaning to dis any of the very well qualified pilots that live here at K4.

Not for nuthiní, but which one of you stepped up to help get the 777 on the certificate? That is an insane effort. We decided that getting a little help was worth exercising the contractually allowed 270 days.

Considering how junior the last bid went, I am not seeing too much whining room. If you wanted the seat, you would have bid it. If not, stop *****ing...

Skyguy out...
I think we all know there are two reasons the 777 didnít go as senior as one might expect.

You are right though. If someone had the expertise to bring a new aircraft/certification/B777 on line and voiced their opinion to BR or someone in charge Iím sure they would have used them.

Until the routes and more aircraft are brought online I donít think many people will considering bidding over and training for a new type for the same or possibly less pay.
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I think we all know there are two reasons the 777 didnít go as senior as one might expect.
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