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Old 11-17-2019, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Checkers21 View Post
Who cares about survey results. There’s some major changes about to take place. Things are going to get interesting. It’s going to get ugly. Check airman are quitting, and people bidding off 767. Definitely will open up a couple check airman vacancies. Probably the goal all along. 😂
I’d get your facts straight. They are quitting because of other reasons than just the schedule. Sure, the schedule didn’t help but lets hear something new, all year you’ve complained about the schedule.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:52 AM
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Bye Felicia.. #Spelling

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Old 11-17-2019, 06:48 AM
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Well, would be nice for the 767 guys if they could get away from the night hub turns. Don't think anyone comes to K4 wanting to do anything less than long haul with great overnights.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 View Post
Funny thing is, if you properly publish the results of a survey, makes it tough for hecklers to take issue with the knock-on effects
Are you indicating that you do not have complete trust in our Union reps? If so there is only 2 solutions. Run for office or quit and go to another carrier, who, by the way, will not release the survey results either. Perhaps I misinterpreted what you have written and will stand corrected if you so wish. These volunteers give their time and I have never seen any evidence that they benefit in any way from their efforts.

I understand Beyoncé is playing at halftime. Perhaps you could have her stop over and play at your K4 MEC/NT impeachment hearing that you seem to be putting on here.��

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Old 11-17-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Garbage in = garbage out. More to it than just updating.
What does that mean?
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Well, would be nice for the 767 guys if they could get away from the night hub turns. Don't think anyone comes to K4 wanting to do anything less than long haul with great overnights.
Originally Posted by Checkers21 View Post
Who cares about survey results. There’s some major changes about to take place. Things are going to get interesting. It’s going to get ugly. Check airman are quitting, and people bidding off 767. Definitely will open up a couple check airman vacancies. Probably the goal all along. 😂
Yes, one of these “major” changes is ETOPS on 3 of the 767’s. Just spoke with DB who is on the proving runs. If the FAA releases the funding they may get done around the 24th. If not, beginning of December. Then it is planned to try to do East Coast to Europe turns and weekend service for PAC. Would be tough overnights in HNL and Brussels. I understand you dismay over this news as it would cut down on your ability to complain as much.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:48 AM
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What does that mean?
Have to check the data. It may only update the winds at certain levels or not every waypoint, or it may copy the same numbers for all the points. Defeating the purpose of fuel savings if the box has garbage data in, which means garbage out as it will calculate off the wrong numbers.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet View Post
Yes, one of these “major” changes is ETOPS on 3 of the 767’s. Just spoke with DB who is on the proving runs. If the FAA releases the funding they may get done around the 24th. If not, beginning of December. Then it is planned to try to do East Coast to Europe turns and weekend service for PAC. Would be tough overnights in HNL and Brussels. I understand you dismay over this news as it would cut down on your ability to complain as much.
Not accurate information. You should just focus on your 74. No one is happy about any ETOPS flying on 767 with no crew rest facility. Here’s another fun fact, no one is begging to do any of the proving runs.

2 planes btw, not 3...

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Old 11-17-2019, 07:55 AM
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What does that mean?
This seriously is confusing to you? Can you take a wild guess? How about asking one of your ETOPS pals. 😂
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Checkers21 View Post
This seriously is confusing to you? Can you take a wild guess? How about asking one of your ETOPS pals. 😂
You need to grow up or get a new job. You are very pathetic. To me what NL3 has written is common sense. I have quite a bit of ETOPS experience and know how it works. The company is pushing to have the 3rd aircraft done so that they don’t have to pay rent to DHL on the PAC weekend run. Maybe you should check your information.
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