Originally Posted by captsurf

Yes



Early September. Seems like a group interview in YIP

Originally Posted by dba74

Thanks, I'm assuming the 777 type rating is required?

Originally Posted by TerrainPullUp

I love how some are so delusional here at K4. The 777 run can be brutal. You only get 24hrs rest at each spot which is just enough time to really screw with your sleep(too short for 2 rests, too long for just one). On top of that, they don't keep any aircrew at any of the bases so if someone calls in sick or god forbid fatigue(more on that later) then there's a huge cluster with scheduling and most likely the crew is screwed and have to go to 3 man. On top of that, any aircraft issues usually means you'll end up doing min rest (10 hours) even after almost 20 hours of duty and NO ONE calls in fatigue, it's very against company culture. I've flown with guys who have been here 3+ years that have never flown with anyone who has called in fatigue. And I've been belittled for talking about it(after two min rest stops), getting the mission done at all costs is very prevalent here. On top of that, you are sharing bunk sheets with numerous crew members (they only get swapped out in CVG), you may fly with crews who have been in close contact with someone who have popped positive on Corvid tests without being notified by the compay, and the union is basically another voice of the company.

There are many positive aspects of K4 as well but don't be under any illusion its all fun and games. They work you hard here, it's very obvious with the HKG issues that money is priority #1, and the union's response to everything is basically "shut up and fly".

I think it's always good to see the blunt truth of things before you make a switch.

Originally Posted by HercDriver130

Don't let the door hit you in the ass if its so freaking terrible. If an FAR was broken report it... if you took less than CBA required rest or duty day that's on you and your crew. in 10 years here I have never been forced to fly a broken airplane.. or beyond my personal fatigue limits. YES, the flying can be brutal here at times...but our pilots are fairly well compensated. Could it be better...yes... and yes.. making money is a priority... it damn well better be in these days of aviation. Rant over....

Originally Posted by CA Deplorable

Sounds like K4 hired a spoon fed pax premadonna into the 777 with no supplemental cargo flying in his or her background. The 777 is a building and growing fleet, when they took on ship two they were already behind the power curve manning wise. My recommendation is quit, as flying with you will be a mental drain on an entire crew! 1,000s waiting to replace you. End of rant

Originally Posted by CA Deplorable

Sounds like K4 hired a spoon fed pax premadonna into the 777 with no supplemental cargo flying in his or her background. The 777 is a building and growing fleet, when they took on ship two they were already behind the power curve manning wise. My recommendation is quit, as flying with you will be a mental drain on an entire crew! 1,000s waiting to replace you. End of rant

Originally Posted by TerrainPullUp

I love how some are so delusional here at K4. The 777 run can be brutal. You only get 24hrs rest at each spot which is just enough time to really screw with your sleep(too short for 2 rests, too long for just one). On top of that, they don't keep any aircrew at any of the bases so if someone calls in sick or god forbid fatigue(more on that later) then there's a huge cluster with scheduling and most likely the crew is screwed and have to go to 3 man. On top of that, any aircraft issues usually means you'll end up doing min rest (10 hours) even after almost 20 hours of duty and NO ONE calls in fatigue, it's very against company culture. I've flown with guys who have been here 3+ years that have never flown with anyone who has called in fatigue. And I've been belittled for talking about it(after two min rest stops), getting the mission done at all costs is very prevalent here. On top of that, you are sharing bunk sheets with numerous crew members (they only get swapped out in CVG), you may fly with crews who have been in close contact with someone who have popped positive on Corvid tests without being notified by the compay, and the union is basically another voice of the company.

There are many positive aspects of K4 as well but don't be under any illusion its all fun and games. They work you hard here, it's very obvious with the HKG issues that money is priority #1, and the union's response to everything is basically "shut up and fly".

I think it's always good to see the blunt truth of things before you make a switch.