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Old 10-10-2018, 06:43 PM   #681  
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I have to tell you that those of us coming over from ASA are so grateful for this opportunity. For the last few years we have watched younger, less experienced pilots get hired by majors while we were bipassed and deemed too old and “untrainable”. Kalitta has proved them wrong. I have heard nothing but good things from those already there and I’m counting down the days until I start ground school.
Welcome aboard, we love flying with guys who love being here. Say goodbye to non-reving, commuter hotels, and JRM.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:47 PM   #682  
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Probably should have 20 vacancies for Captain on the 767 instead of 10. Everyone I’ve talked to is supposedly bidding 777 or back to the 747.
That's what backfill is for.
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Yes, welcome aboard. We just received an email for a bid for 50 more captain upgrades. 30 747. 10 777. 10 767. That should bring about hiring for at least that many FO positions and probably many more.

Annie said today that we are at 540 on the seniority list. And, there are new hire groups of 18 scheduled every 3 weeks indefinitely.


My limited math skills put the end game of today's bid somewhere in the 700+ range.


Please be sure you bid what you want. And, you bid what you are ready for. It is a hard reality, but some of you are not ready. Just because you can hold the seat does not mean you need to be there.


Some of the smartest pilots I see in the schoolhouse are the ones who realize that they need a little more time before they bid the upgrade.


We work in a challenging environment. And, as most of you already know, you get sent out in the world without a whole lot of support from home. Be sure that you are up to the task of being Master and Commander before you check the box.


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Old 10-11-2018, 04:04 AM   #684  
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Annie said today that we are at 540 on the seniority list. And, there are new hire groups of 18 scheduled every 3 weeks indefinitely.


My limited math skills put the end game of today's bid somewhere in the 700+ range.


Please be sure you bid what you want. And, you bid what you are ready for. It is a hard reality, but some of you are not ready. Just because you can hold the seat does not mean you need to be there.


Some of the smartest pilots I see in the schoolhouse are the ones who realize that they need a little more time before they bid the upgrade.


We work in a challenging environment. And, as most of you already know, you get sent out in the world without a whole lot of support from home. Be sure that you are up to the task of being Master and Commander before you check the box.


Just sayin'
Well, often enough, that decision falls on your lap if someone isn't ready, but who is left to upgrade? The majority of people who are going to bid this have two years or less with the company. We've ran out of 4+ year FO's with a few exceptions.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:51 AM   #685  
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Well, often enough, that decision falls on your lap if someone isn't ready, but who is left to upgrade? The majority of people who are going to bid this have two years or less with the company. We've ran out of 4+ year FO's with a few exceptions.
The last one was at 2 years as well, and a lot of the guys did just fine in training. DO NOT sit IRP every leg. DO NOT turn down landings, and DO NOT even think about upgrading on OPT. Those are the people that fail.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:35 AM   #686  
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There’s not much talk about the 767 here other than they fly domestic only and you don’t fly as much. Is there anyone working for K4 that chooses the 767? If so, I’d like to hear more about that. Do you make more than guarantee? How much are you flying? Are you doing the same 16 day schedule?
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There’s not much talk about the 767 here other than they fly domestic only and you don’t fly as much. Is there anyone working for K4 that chooses the 767? If so, I’d like to hear more about that. Do you make more than guarantee? How much are you flying? Are you doing the same 16 day schedule?
I've been told that there is OT available on the 767, if you live near CVG, but it is nothing like it is on the 747. A 3rd year CA making line guarantee is still grossing over 14k a month including perdiem. Keep in mind, it is possible to do the same as an FO on the 747 on first and second year pay with OT, if you want it.
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I've been told that there is OT available on the 767, if you live near CVG, but it is nothing like it is on the 747. A 3rd year CA making line guarantee is still grossing over 14k a month including perdiem. Keep in mind, it is possible to do the same as an FO on the 747 on first and second year pay with OT, if you want it.

Do the airplanes come back to CVG throughout the 16 days? What would being local to CVG look like for a K4 767 pilot? Thanks.
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Do the airplanes come back to CVG throughout the 16 days? What would being local to CVG look like for a K4 767 pilot? Thanks.
Yes. About 10-12 days of work per month on average. You can bid trips that layover in CVG on the weekends. If your seniority can hold it, you can bid a reserve line and realistically be home every day, unless you get called to fly. It’s the best job ever if you live in CVG from what guys and gals that live there are saying. Of course this is all subject to change and is contingent on the 767 flying DHL domestic.
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Yes. About 10-12 days of work per month on average. You can bid trips that layover in CVG on the weekends. If your seniority can hold it, you can bid a reserve line and realistically be home every day, unless you get called to fly. It’s the best job ever if you live in CVG from what guys and gals that live there are saying. Of course this is all subject to change and is contingent on the 767 flying DHL domestic.
That would be about as good as it gets unless you're motivated by money alone. It seems to me, if you aren't living in CVG(or to a lessor degree one of the cities the 767 does layovers in) you may as well bid to fly the 747 or the 777 when it's available.

I'm interested. I plan to apply once they are accepting resumes. I've done a similar schedule for about 5 years and I'm familiar with the challenges of being on the road that long. However, I stayed within UTC-10 to UTC-3.5 during those trips, so I'm not sure how much pain is incurred with the worldwide travel you guys endure.

I guess you don't know until you try it.
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