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Old 08-06-2018, 08:46 PM   #1  
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The top 46 First Officers out of 112 on the current bid list at ABX have had careers that have now touched two different centuries and three (soon to be four) different decades.

The most senior First Officer was hired in 1991. Number 46 was the last one hired during the 20th century. There is an 11 year gap between #46 and #47.

Beginning at number 17, (due to bypasses, etc.) and with a hire date of 1996, that person could not even hold a Captain spot if he wanted to. 22 years in so far and no chance of upgrade anytime soon.

Our most junior Captain was hired in 1996. (That was last century if youíre keeping track.)

Food for thought. Just saying.
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The top 46 First Officers out of 112 on the current bid list at ABX have had careers that have now touched two different centuries and three (soon to be four) different decades.

The most senior First Officer was hired in 1991. Number 46 was the last one hired during the 20th century. There is an 11 year gap between #46 and #47.

Beginning at number 17, (due to bypasses, etc.) and with a hire date of 1996, that person could not even hold a Captain spot if he wanted to. 22 years in so far and no chance of upgrade anytime soon.

Our most junior Captain was hired in 1996. (That was last century if youíre keeping track.)

Food for thought. Just saying.
then all those CA's should be dying soon....
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:14 PM   #3  
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Sounds like ABX is ripe for quick upgrades here in a few years.
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then all those CA's should be dying soon....
Omg 😂😂 Iím in tears...
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Sounds like ABX is ripe for quick upgrades here in a few years.
Hah, hah, hah. They are parking planes and losing contracts nearly as fast as they are retiring captains. There is negative growth here, and there is little reason to think that will change. We've been beaten to the punch by our sister/whipsaw airline. Plenty of guys with a decade+ left that will occupy the shrinking number of captain seats for many years to come! I hope I'm not around when most jr captain hits 30 years of seniority.
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Hah, hah, hah. They are parking planes and losing contracts nearly as fast as they are retiring captains. There is negative growth here, and there is little reason to think that will change. We've been beaten to the punch by our sister/whipsaw airline. Plenty of guys with a decade+ left that will occupy the shrinking number of captain seats for many years to come! I hope I'm not around when most jr captain hits 30 years of seniority.
With that in mind.....why are you still at ABX?
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With that in mind.....why are you still at ABX?
Most have apps out and are leaving in case you haven't seen the list turn over at the bottom! Appears ATSG is shutting down ABX slowly. There will be jobs out there for those who wait till the last day.
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then all those CA's should be dying soon....
What??? Dying???... Sixty is the new twenty!!!
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Sounds like ABX is ripe for quick upgrades here in a few years.
Donít count on it. Upgrades would need route and/or fleet expansion. The opposite is happening at ABX. Because the ATSG and the ABX management refuses to change their ways of trying to beat down on the ABX pilot group, contract negotiations are going nowhere. So in turn DHL is rewarding K4 with more flying. Amazon is about to follow suit. So the ABX president might be in self fulfilling prophecy situation. ABX will shut down but due to his managerial failure and nothing to do with anything the pilots have or could do.
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With that in mind.....why are you still at ABX?
Perhaps because of age. At a certain point it doesnít make any sense trying to start all over again.
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