nitefr8dog

Management is just not that smart...

woog315

All of the ABX new hires are doing their sims in Denver. At least partially to end run around the union regarding the hotel and per diem. August in-house ABX sim schedule is about 80% ATI. Things are going great!

point432

Back when ABX started hiring once again, they should have been putting people up and paying per diem. That thinking is so behind the curve, it took mgmt 2 years to finally come around to accepting it. The damage has been done and there is in no way they can come back.


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Industry Strnd

Let's break this down. A guy is put in charge comes in threatening everyone's careers. Massive amounts of fos quit with the furlough threat.

Then the head of training quits, the head of scheduling quits and takes schedulers with him. The Co ERC and instructor quits, line check pilots quit. Many pilots take early retirement. The stock price tanks, flying is lost.

Massive amounts of jr manning going on so much so the 4th qu is going to be 2016 all over. At what point does the rest of the ATSG board realize someone who threatens employees and lies is not the way to accomplish goals?

Oh and trying to hide the fact that a 27 million offer was just creative accounting to make it look like it was alot of money.

I guess ACMI doesn't pay enough for them to hire someone with business sense, integrity, talent, and knows how to lead employees not make them give 2 shxts less about their company.

Alot of pilots quitting and almost all looking. No end in sight for ACMI carriers to realize each day that goes by they keep letting employees leave and the reputation of the airline continues to tank. Im sure there will be a meeting about these message board posts and instead of fixing the problem they will look the penalize the pilot group in some way.

How many are going to Kalitta for the 4th quater instead of staying at ABX for the melt down?

Jurassic Jet

The outflow of pilots is getting ready to be unlike anything ever seen before at this company. Peak season is going to be a nightmare.

Shabby

Mostly all new hires are also applying other places as soon as they are done with training (if not while in training)!

Doesn’t seem like anyone has any big hopes anymore.

cargowarrior

Talking to a friend who recently left, half of Dispatch and what’s left of ABX scheduling department has applications out. They recently gave the SOC a retention raise whice doesn’t make up for a decade of being under paid. Perhaps JH will come off his wallet, and try to salvage what he can with everyone.

gumpscheck

Sorry but he can’t help himself. He doesn’t know how run a successful company. ATSG is on a tailspin low slow and out of ideas.

forrealyall

This is true. We're also fighting for what's right. We need our jobs- this isn't a great area for finding alternative employment. Without a proper contract, we can't do our jobs. The janitors are leaving for Atlas right now. Somebody has to be here to turn off the lights. Nobody wants to be that guy.

FUPM. A lot of us are behind you guys.

cargowarrior

Unfortunately, they are leaving for better pay at Atlas, which is also in need of fair contract too. ABX played on the fact that they were the only airline in the region for a while. However, now that Atlas has moved in they are forced to compete for service, not only for business but for talent as well. I hope ABX/ATSG realizes people are an asset and not just a liability. They can demonstrate this by negotiating a fair contract. Then we can try an save this ship. However, IMHO the iceberg has already struck and now is taking on water. Those who left I wish them the best at Atlas or wherever they land. I was a dispatcher before I took to the friendly sky’s no way I’d survive on what GFS pays. I’d bolt for Atlas too, least they have a union to back them up and negotiate a fair wage.